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widgeon13 05-21-2009 04:11 AM

Spyware / Virus programs for Apple
 
Are there any free spyware or virus programs for Apple computers? I am having some eratic performance issues w/ my G4 and was wondering if there is something I can run that will give me any indication of any problems.

Thanks

stomachmonkey 05-21-2009 05:11 AM

ClamAV is open source.

http://www.clamav.net/

Here's a link for a gui for it.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/networking_security/clamxav.html

Doubt you have a virus

widgeon13 05-21-2009 05:15 AM

Thanks very much.

Moses 05-21-2009 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4676141)

Doubt you have a virus

20 years of running Mac's at home and at work. Never had a virus. Don't know anyone who has.

126coupe 05-21-2009 05:54 AM

Just brought my Mac Book to the Apple Store thinking I had a virus. The tech guy told there are no virus that attack apple computers.

jyl 05-21-2009 06:12 AM

Download and run Maintenance. I run it every month or so. http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?docid=889939
Also max out RAM while memory is cheap.
I, too, quite doubt you have a virus.

red-beard 05-21-2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 126coupe (Post 4676211)
Just brought my Mac Book to the Apple Store thinking I had a virus. The tech guy told there are no virus that attack apple computers.

That is Apple hype.

http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/Macintosh_Viruses_and_Mac_Virus_Resources.htm

People don't attack the Macs, because they make up something like 4% of computers out there.

legion 05-21-2009 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4676265)
That is Apple hype.

http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/Macintosh_Viruses_and_Mac_Virus_Resources.htm

People don't attack the Macs, because they make up something like 4% of computers out there.

Yep, but the increasing hubris of Mac users is making them an increasingly attractive ego target for hackers. Most virus writers/hackers go for the biggest bang (the 90% of the PC market that Windows enjoys). Some like the challenge of knocking a small, arrogant user group off of their perch.

varmint 05-21-2009 06:39 AM

a lot of the nastier viruses are coming out of china and russia. from people who have never even seen a mac up close.

but who the gods would destroy they first make proud. there is nothing inherently invulnerable about these machines.

dad911 05-21-2009 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 4676288)
....... there is nothing inherently invulnerable about these machines.

other than the operating system?

legion 05-21-2009 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 4676307)
other than the operating system?

Obscurity is not invulnerability.

jeffgrant 05-21-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 4676311)
Obscurity is not invulnerability.

No, but a "properly" designed OS with a strong basis in security engineering is a good start.

Without meaning to start a flame or religious war, OS X is a much better designed OS from a security point of view than any win32 OS.

stomachmonkey 05-21-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 4676311)
Obscurity is not invulnerability.

That's a tired and frankly lame argument. Always has been.

Apple sells 5 million boxes a year. That's a pretty small target.

Explain to me why there were a few hundred viruses for OS 9, (OS X's immediate non.nix predecessor) and none in the 10 years OS X has been around with a vastly higher installed base.

widgeon13 05-21-2009 11:33 AM

Thanks guys, scanned a few things and nothing has shown up. I appreciate the guidance.

techweenie 05-21-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 4676806)
Thanks guys, scanned a few things and nothing has shown up. I appreciate the guidance.

Nothing will show up. At this point, there are no viruses or worms that attack OSX. OSX is build on FreeBSD, which has been hammered endlessly for over a decade.

The only threat 'in the wild' came in some pirated software, and required an approval to install -- as does every program on the Mac.

widgeon13 05-21-2009 12:54 PM

i'm not a student of the Apple operating system, I use it and enjoy the convenience. At my age I find more enjoyment in a few other endeavors as well so OSX is a low priority. I appreciate any guidance that was offered in response to my question.

Ronbo 05-21-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 4676082)
I am having some eratic performance issues

If you haven't already, try repairing your permissions from the Disk Utility program located in your Utilities folder.

techweenie 05-21-2009 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronbo (Post 4676998)
If you haven't already, try repairing your permissions from the Disk Utility program located in your Utilities folder.

+1

I should have mentioned that. Probably should do it once every 3-4 months.

widgeon13 05-21-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronbo (Post 4676998)
If you haven't already, try repairing your permissions from the Disk Utility program located in your Utilities folder.

Done, says all OK so I will presume no problems.

jyl 05-21-2009 09:03 PM

If still acting weird, try resetting PRAM. Google it, you'll find lots of info. When you bring a misbehaving Mac into the Apple Store, this is one of the first things they do. You will have to reset various preferences and system time afterwards.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

jeffgrant 05-21-2009 09:23 PM

Also, try leaving it running for a day or two without shutting it off or putting it to sleep.

There are a few "behind the scenes" admin tasks that are run every so often, usually at off times, and if they haven't run in a while, they can fire up while you're using it, which will slow things down.

Also, how much disk space do you have free? Try to have at least 10GB free, and I'd recommend investing in a good disk defragmentor and run it every few months.

dad911 05-22-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffgrant (Post 4677754)
Also, try leaving it running for a day or two without shutting it off or putting it to sleep.

There are a few "behind the scenes" admin tasks that are run every so often, usually at off times, and if they haven't run in a while, they can fire up while you're using it, which will slow things down.

Also, how much disk space do you have free? Try to have at least 10GB free, and I'd recommend investing in a good disk defragmentor and run it every few months.

I've been using Yasu (Yet Another System Utility) to do maintenance & clear caches: http://jimmitchelldesign.com/projects/yasu/

jyl 05-22-2009 06:42 AM

Last two things I can think of - if you are using Time Machine or .Mac sync (MobileMe now), and have an older/slower machine, it can slow down when those tasks are running. I have a G5 iMac and the performance hit is apparent at those times. Though, it is a "slowing down", not an "acting weird" issue. Finally, if you have a family of dust bunnies in the computer, blow them out - don't want to interfere w/ cooling. These are probably not the cause but can't hurt to mention.

71T Targa 05-22-2009 08:04 AM

Isn't asking about virus protection for the Mac kind of like asking about a body guard for Jack Bauer?

stomachmonkey 05-22-2009 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4678182)
Last two things I can think of - if you are using Time Machine or .Mac sync (MobileMe now), and have an older/slower machine, it can slow down when those tasks are running. I have a G5 iMac and the performance hit is apparent at those times. Though, it is a "slowing down", not an "acting weird" issue. Finally, if you have a family of dust bunnies in the computer, blow them out - don't want to interfere w/ cooling. These are probably not the cause but can't hurt to mention.

Vacuum them out is a better option. Blowing into with compressed air can force particles into places you don't want them.

techweenie 05-22-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 71T Targa (Post 4678322)
Isn't asking about virus protection for the Mac kind of like asking about a body guard for Jack Bauer?

LOL.

There have been theoretical Quicktime, email and jpg exploits that could eventually be used to create zombie Macs, but Apple has done a good job of handling those potential threats in occasional OS updates.

Microsoft has made great progress with malware prevention since XP, as seen here:

http://tinyurl.com/cm3to9

Unfortunately, about 70% of businesses are still running XP. The net is that it appears there are about 100,000,000 Windows computers infected worldwide at this moment.


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