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dhoward 07-02-2009 10:27 AM

I was wondering what that had to do with a plane crash...
:D

speeder 07-02-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varmint (Post 4756274)
i remember years back arguing with someone who said that since tookie williams wrote a children's book telling kids to not join gangs, he should be spared the death penalty.

now, i have worked on dozens of children's books and cartoons. WHEN DO I GET MY FREE MURDER? i have a prepared list of people i'd like to kill in my desk.

they didn't have an answer.

back in the seventies norman mailer fell in love with the poetry of some convict. he testified before the parole board saying the guy was too talented to remain in prison. within a month of being set loose, the guy got drunk and murdered a waiter.

roman polanski gave a 13 year old pills. and then sodomized her while she was unconscious. being a moderately talented director does not give you a free pass for stuff like that.


"moderately talented"?? Ok, I think I see the problem here... :cool:

As for the guilt of the people you mentioned, i have no argument.

stomachmonkey 07-02-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4756227)
For whom and from whom? And of the taxpayers, how will they see any of that revenue?

Sure, taco trucks and water stands will make $$$...

Otherwise, I fail to see the benefit of trickle-down superstar funerals to the public at large.

I had the same opinion about the Lakers celebration until the Mayor raised a lot of the cost through private donations.

People will fly in from all over for it.

The Figueroa and other hotels in the vicinity will be booked.

The restaurants will see some good coin.

The city and state will see its share of tax revenue.

It'll generate a couple of million in cash that will be spread around.

Not a huge sum of money considering the current financial climate in CA but money is money.

I don't think they'd be entertaining it if there was not a projected profit.

dd74 07-02-2009 02:15 PM

Last night, someone mentioned MJ's body was at Forest Lawn Mortuary near Warner Bros. Studios. The press was there in a matter of minutes.

This stuff is turning into a game. Where's the body? Where's the funeral? When's the funeral? Who has custody of the kids? Is there a will?

The only one laughing about this, I'm sure, is Jackson himself. :cool:

Porsche-O-Phile 07-02-2009 02:19 PM

When does the Jackson Four go on tour?

Dottore 07-02-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4755857)
Keep fighting the good fight? Sure. I will.

And you can keep right on defending and idolizing the baby-f*ckers like Wacko Jacko and Roman Polanski. We need more shameless defenders of pedophiles, freaks, molesters and rapists.

Care to share with the class how Mr. Polanski is NOT guilty? The evidence is overwhelming, including his own admission.

Maybe you really think they're innocent? Or is that the Jesus Juice talking?

What makes you so obnoxious is the self righteous arrogance with which you presume facts from tabloid trash, and then state categorically that someone is a "mentally disturbed evil baby-rapist" who you would kill in "five minutes in a closed room" and who should "rot in hell" etc. etc. Strong words from someone who doesn't have a fecking clue what he's talking about. And this all because you presume facts.

Let me give you an example of what is wrong with presuming facts. You have over 17,000 posts on this board—all of them long. Let's assume (conservatively) that you spend an average of 15 minutes on each post. Then let's assume (again conservatively) that for each 15 minutes that you spend posting, you spend another 30 minutes surfing and reading other posts on this board. That comes to 765,000 minutes or 12,750 hours since 2004 when you joined. Or more than six years of full time 40 hour weeks! And I believe most of those posts were made from your former place of employment.

So were I to presume facts (like you do about Polanski and Jackson) I would have to conclude that you are one extraordinary sad-sack dead-beat who hasn't done an honest days work since joining this board (and probably before) who has no life whatsoever because he spends all of it pontificating here. I would assume further that you got sacked from your old job because you spent 8 hours a day on PPOT.

Now of course I would probably be wrong in this, because you are no doubt a clever and ambitious young man who is going places. I just want to point out how wrong it is to presume facts about others and form hard-boiled conclusions from such presumptions.

I happen to know Roman Polanski, and I have more respect for him as a human being and artist than you can possibly imagine. I have stated my view of that scandal on another thread and won't repeat it here. At least do yourself a favour and rent the award winning documentary "Polanski" and try to form a full picture of the man before spewing your presumptuous bile here in another turgid post.

Rick Lee 07-02-2009 05:22 PM

Lighten up, Francis!

Dottore 07-02-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4757112)
Lighten up, Francis!

Note to self: Must not drink at lunchtime!

widgeon13 07-02-2009 06:53 PM

make up your own caption, this was at MJ's Apollo tribute

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1246585996.jpg

Porsche-O-Phile 07-02-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 4757070)
What makes you so obnoxious is the self righteous arrogance with which you presume facts from tabloid trash, and then state categorically that someone is a "mentally disturbed evil baby-rapist" who you would kill in "five minutes in a closed room" and who should "rot in hell" etc. etc. Strong words from someone who doesn't have a fecking clue what he's talking about. And this all because you presume facts.

Let me give you an example of what is wrong with presuming facts. You have over 17,000 posts on this board—all of them long. Let's assume (conservatively) that you spend an average of 15 minutes on each post. Then let's assume (again conservatively) that for each 15 minutes that you spend posting, you spend another 30 minutes surfing and reading other posts on this board. That comes to 765,000 minutes or 12,750 hours since 2004 when you joined. Or more than six years of full time 40 hour weeks! And I believe most of those posts were made from your former place of employment.

So were I to presume facts (like you do about Polanski and Jackson) I would have to conclude that you are one extraordinary sad-sack dead-beat who hasn't done an honest days work since joining this board (and probably before) who has no life whatsoever because he spends all of it pontificating here. I would assume further that you got sacked from your old job because you spent 8 hours a day on PPOT.

Now of course I would probably be wrong in this, because you are no doubt a clever and ambitious young man who is going places. I just want to point out how wrong it is to presume facts about others and form hard-boiled conclusions from such presumptions.

I happen to know Roman Polanski, and I have more respect for him as a human being and artist than you can possibly imagine. I have stated my view of that scandal on another thread and won't repeat it here. At least do yourself a favour and rent the award winning documentary "Polanski" and try to form a full picture of the man before spewing your presumptuous bile here in another turgid post.

Care to point out where I ever said I'd kill anyone? Who's the one making ASSumptions here? And I was speaking about Roman Polanski anyway, who is a self-admitted statutory rapist and a fugitive from justice... Michael? Pfft. I wouldn't waste my time on. The kid's parents were the real criminals in that fustercluck.

Were you molested as a kid or something? I seem to have touched a nerve here and you seem AWFULLY sensitive about people calling a baby-f*cking child molester a baby-f*cking child molester. I don't sugar-coat it. It is what it is. Those two are guilty. And yes, that's my opinion on what I've seen. If that's not good enough for you, then too damn bad. You're entitled to your own opinion. They're like arseholes - everyone has one (a fact I'm sure the Late Michael Jackson was very pleased about, particularly in the context of young boys).

You can keep your tact and political correctness. I'm not afraid to stand up and say good riddance to Michael Jackson the baby-f*cker. Kids the world over can sleep a little easier now.

Waste of a human life and even worse, waste of one that had the potential to do such good...

Dottore 07-02-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4757337)
And yes, that's my opinion on what I've seen. .

So what exactly have you seen, that entitles you to call someone a "mentally disturbed evil baby rapist" who you would personally kill?

Can you explain this to us?

I think you've probably "seen" feck all, apart from the tabloids

But you sure presume a lot.

And that's why I think you're a sorry arsehole.

I hate to put to put so fine a point on it. But your type of mendacity brings out the worst in me.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-02-2009 08:17 PM

Where did I say I'd kill anyone again? I missed that part.

Methinks you SERIOUSLY need to go get laid.

dafischer 07-02-2009 08:22 PM

Q: What has 8 legs and works at McDonald's?

A:The Jackson Four.

stomachmonkey 07-02-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4757337)
Kids the world over can sleep a little easier now.

I really find the use of that phrase curious.

I must have missed the amber alerts about one of the most recognizable people on the face of the planet cruising shopping malls with pockets full of candy and kittens snatching kids off the streets or sneaking into their homes like some freaked out Santa Claus striking fear in the hearts of parents and kids the world over.

I thought we were talking about a person who despite his obvious eccentricity and outright bizarreness was actually deemed more credible, by a jury no less, than the mother of one of his alleged victims.

Dottore 07-02-2009 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4757399)

Where did I say I'd kill anyone again?

Quote

"Give me five minutes in a room alone with Polanski and I'd fix the problem once and for all. "

Unquote

Did I miss something here? I think this, plus your comments about he should "rot in hell" etc were fairly clear.

But I'm done with with this thread. Eeeech! I feel like a shower after this pathetic exchange.

dafischer 07-02-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 4757450)
Quote
But I'm done with with this thread. Eeeech! I feel like a shower after this pathetic exchange.

Horse Schidt. You love every minute of this. If you didn't, you would have disengaged yourself many posts ago.

afterburn 549 07-02-2009 09:38 PM

Dottore,..and a couple other of you so called self enlightened idiots
You always take the left,
You will never know the right
Must be you have had no natural child upbringing
or..
You..are self sufficient in being GHAY and left and OK with "MAYBE he is (was ) a child molester..
Would you have felt OK to have left your kids with him ? ?? ??
You guys are ass holes
You try to cover up your phenomenal intellect with BULL$#it ?
I have put up with you senseless arguments B4
Is a wast of my time to read your grade school post
So Elementary
you flunk basic abate skills

Geronimo '74 07-02-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 4757495)
Dottore,..and a couple other of you so called self enlightened idiots
You always take the left,
You will never know the right

You..are self sufficient in being GHAY and left and OK with "MAYBE he is (was ) a child molester..

You always take the left, You will never know the right.... Like the guy guys here on the board with the more right-winged mind will ever go left.... I fail to see what your point is with this statement. Unless you are trying to say that "right (-wing opinion) is right (correct). Which would mean you live in a small world, since everybody knows no one side is absolutely correct in everything.

To all you gentlemen who like to use homosexuality as a pejorative description and use it for insulting others, you should put a little bit of that right-wing, borderline fascist, mindset in the thrash bin. We live in the 21st century, and whether you approve of it or not, homos exist. Put up or shut up, you might be insulting a fellow Pelicanite.
Just to be clear this, I am not gay. (straight as a ruler) but I find it offensive to read that some of you feel the need to ventilate that narrow-minded view.
Next one who feels the urge to spew this sheit again, should have his kids grow up as flamboyant homosexuals or lesbians, the gods of irony willing. Let's see then if you can put the love for your children above your stupid opinion.

I am now officially done with this thread, which is leading nowhere.

dd74 07-02-2009 11:39 PM

Back on track:

Tuesday is the day MJ gets memorialized. It'll be at the Staples Center.

An estimated 1 million people/fans will descend on L.A. to be part of the festivities, and hopefully get a share in the paltry 11,000 general admission tickets to the public memorial.

The LAPD does not have enough manpower to control 1 million people, and the City Council wants to know who is going to pay for all this.

Oh man! Why do I have the feeling this is going to be a major fiasco? :rolleyes:

varmint 07-03-2009 12:27 AM

i admire joe jackson for the sheer balls required to charge admission to his son's funeral.


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