I've seen Wayne Newton perform live and loved it. I saw him and John Ashcroft sing Happy B-day to Strom Thurmond. What a hoot that was. Stiil, you couldn't have paid me to go see an MJ concert, mostly because of his fans though.

I'm not knocking WN but you must admit his face is pretty darn tight.

No offence, but yes, musicians are entertainers, show men, not necessarly.. Willy Nelson makes music too, but you really can't call him a "show man". I've yet to see WN show up in some kind of special stage outfit, designed just so it would match the them of the show, with show girls dancing in matching outfits...


As for Mick Jagger running around and dancing, well, yeah, it's dancing, but i doubt Jagger ever spent much time coming up with a choreography, let alone spending time practicing his "moves". Dude goes on stage, and then jumps around... It is dancing in a broad sense, but i'll be damned if he ever get's much points for style and fancy technique...

If MJ was just about the music, then i guess he wasted his time running around bothering with silly things like dancing, dancers, choreography, outfit's, special effects and fancy music video's... I guess he could have done it like Willy Nelson still does.Hell, why did he ever bother leaving the house? he could have written and recorded in the comfort of his home studio, like so many big names have these days...And i'm sure it's less exhausting to just show up, sit ones ass on a chair, and sing from there, without moving a muscle otherwise... because after all, we only care about the musical qualities, that's all that matters , right?



Some are more about the music, some are more about the stage performance and the dancing... Seriously, if you can't see the difference, then i'm gonna have to call you thick.

If you listened to Al Sharpton at the service yesterday, he made it sound like MJ facilitated the election of the "O"man, paving the way for the first black president, that is a bunch of BS. I'll bet BHO wouldn't let his kids with 500 ft of MJ, dead or alive.

Al S. and the family have turned this into a racial thing and that is most unfortunate. MJ died, unknown circumstances (yet), he had a great record as a performer but very questionable as a human being in my mind.

He was a freaking performer not our savior!

Good points. And....what will the Media do when Paul McCartney dies? The guy flat out is a true genius and legend. He probably wrote more and greater stuff in one week in 1967 than MJ did his entire career....and Im not bagging on MJ when I say that, its just the truth.

Perhaps MJ is famous more for being famous and flashy and weird now...and a certain portion of the population needs someone like that that they can point to an even worship in some twisted way. Thats the sad thing of it all. It would be different if MJ had actually produced something decent in the last 20 years, but instead it was just one freak show after another with the guy.

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Did you hear Sheila Jackson-Lee's speech? She is perhaps the dumbest person in Congress and that's saying something. She said something to the effect that, as a member of Congress, she knows the Const., she knows the law and people are innocent until proven otherwise. Uh huh. Bottom line, Sheila. Would you let your kid spend the night over there? This is the woman who, while touring the Jet Propulsion Lab, asked if the Mars Sojourner could see the flag left there by our Astronauts.

Good point about the video. MJ practically invented the music video. No one was putting video to their songs before MJ. Since MJ, it's hard to launch a tune without an accompanying video. Not sure this is a good thing—but it is what it is.

That's not true.

MTV really "invented" the music video, or at least was the big facilitator of it.

MJ didn't invent music videos any more than many artists who have made videos over the years, Duran Duran in the early years, etc. MJ didn't even have any videos that got any real airplay on MTV for the first couple of years. By the time he came along with videos, MTV and music videos were already a force that was here to stay and changed the music industry.

MJs videos were all for the most part pretty standard fare, except for Thriller, which was a concept (a really long, storytelling movie/music video) that never took off.

The Beatles probably invented the Music Video

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huh? music videos have been around since the mid 60s at least

When I moved to NJ and lived at my grandmother's house until our house was built, it was paradise because she had cable tv and that included MTV. I think that was early 1983 and my first memories of MTV were of Michael Jackson, Def Leppard and The Pretenders. However, MTV also had a section called "Closet Classics" and it included a lot of really old school stuff from Yes, The Who, Hendrix, etc.

i dont know if this is true...but..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_concerts_did_michael_jackson_do

according to this Michael Jackson performed less than 60 concerts.....

how many shows of his have you seen? how were they? did they blow you away?

I have never heard anybody rave about a MJ concert. His overall body of work is extremely thin compared to, well...just about anybody

I guess im thick because i dont understand just exactly why humans are so lacking in intelligence, good taste, and judgment , and why the media stokes this fire

i will admit, when it comes to "music entertainers" which is what MJ supposedly was, i could give a crap about their dance moves. im interested in the music primarily and the musicians ability to entertain me with their exercising of their craft

some dude in flashy clothes doing dance moves while lip sinking doesnt exactly rise to the level of "king" in my mind...but im thick

world class composers like jimmy page and keith richards and paul mcCartney must be running out of barf-bags by now

Spot on!

Well, that went over like a fart in church...

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20090709/D99B2OU00.html

A very rare case of liberal common sense.

Sheila jackson Lee, any relation to MJ, well I supposed if one went back a couple of generations.

you gotta be kidding me


The "Bad" tour spanned the globe with stops in 15 countries on 4 continents, and included 123 concerts to about 4.4 million fans.

Dangerous tour, 67 concerts to approximately 3.5 million fans. Second half of the tour was cancelled for ill health

The history tour, 2 legs for a total of 82 concerts to over 4.5 million fans

Each concert was a packed stadium...
And that's just his solo tours, he did others when he was with the J5's

I haven't been to any of them, but you gotta be deaf and blind to not know he had hordes of bat**** crazy fanatical fans wherever the dude went, and they sure as hell raved when they came back from one of those concerts.

If you don't like him or his music, fine , that's alright... But at least try to make some kind of sense if you wanna talk smack about a dead guy... Because if you make dumb statements, that don't reflect on the dead guy, it reflects on you.

if you post something that is so obviously false, then adding "dunno if it's true" means you either don't know, and in that case, must have been on the moon for the last 20 years... or you're just a basic troll.