Bernie apologizes

[herr_oberst]

http://www.racer.com/2009/07/ecclestone-sorry-for-hitler-remarks/


“Most of my mates are Jewish people; I spoke to two or three very prominent people today, Jewish people. One of them said to me, ‘Bernie, you’re more Jewish than all of my friends.’”

Remember when he said something about women wearing white so they look like the rest of the domestic appliances in the kitchen? I think his apology there was about the same, something like "most of my "girlfriends have been women"

Time for him to retire.

[legion]

I don't care if he apologizes or not as long as he's gone.

[Jim Richards]

So long, Bernie and Spanky.

[strupgolf]

First it's Mosely, now it's Bernie. What do F1 queen-bees have to do with the Nazi's and why do the head gon-zoes like German history? Seems very strange to me. They both need to go.

[Neilk]

Originally Posted by strupgolf

First it's Mosely, now it's Bernie. What do F1 queen-bees have to do with the Natzi's and why do the head gon-zoes like German history? Seems very strange to me. They both need to go.

I guess you can't read... It's because THEY were able to get things done!

[strupgolf]

I guess I can't spell Nazi's; oh well, how in the world is it spelled? Bernie and his bunch can get things done; sieg heil.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by strupgolf

First it's Mosely, now it's Bernie. What do F1 queen-bees have to do with the Natzi's and why do the head gon-zoes like German history? Seems very strange to me. They both need to go.

It is very bizarre. MM should not have had the chance for a no confidence vote inside the FIA after his little tryst (the one that we found out about) - he should have been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. IMHO

Bernie is just an old grandma who forgets what is appropriate to say these days, and hanging out with the Spankmeister, I'm sure his head is full of the "wonderfulness" of the Nazi party, and he is a little too feeble in the brain pan to filter his comments to the press. I blame Spanky Von Goosestepper

[imcarthur]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

MM should not have had the chance for a no confidence vote inside the FIA after his little tryst (the one that we found out about) - he should have been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion.

Not so fast . . .

from a post on Fchat:

However, success in the fight for FIA president is not just about the attributes of the single man standing for the top job - because it requires a whole 22-strong 'cabinet' list to be nominated prior to the election taking place.

This cabinet system was introduced in 2005, just prior to Mosley successfully winning another term as president after standing unopposed. The original aim of the cabinet system was to ensure that wild card candidates could not put themselves forward and hope to capitalise on merely a negative vote for the current president.

In a letter sent in 2005, prior to the FIA senate approving the cabinet system, Mosley said: "In order to be successful, a candidate for the presidency would need the open support and backing of major participants in the FIA.

"This would mean that the presidency would tend to go to someone with a team and a programme, both of which had broad support throughout the FIA rather than the backing of any particular interest group."

In a reminder document sent last week by the FIA to national motoring authorities worldwide, which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, the process by which the elections at the General Assembly on October 23 will take place were laid out.

It confirmed that the list of candidates for president may be submitted from September 11 to October 2. The document also said that an application to stand for president had to include the 'full name, position and signature' of each of the 22 candidates being put forward to form the 'cabinet'.

This core group of people must include a President of the Senate, a Deputy President for Sport, a Deputy President for Automobile Mobility and Tourism, five members of the Senate, seven vice-presidents of the FIA for Sport and seven vice-presidents of the FIA for Automobile Mobility and Tourism.

Assembling a 22-strong team ready to be so public in its support is not an insurmountable problem, but one big difficulty is that none of the individuals on one presidential hopeful's list can be present on another.

The FIA document said: "A list cannot include a candidate who is already registered on another list, on pain of ineligibility of the said candidate. Should such be the case, (and after the identification by the FIA Secretariat) the list reader must provide a replacement for the ‘lost' candidate in the conditions set out in the FIA Internal Regulations."

Originally from autosport . . . source Fchat post

Ian

[pwd72s]

Oh...that Bernie!

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by legion

I don't care if he apologizes or not as long as he's gone.

+1 and the sooner the better.

[sammyg2]

FOTA teams stage fresh walk-out
Wednesday 8th July 2009

The future of Formula One is again "in jeopardy" after the eight members of FOTA walked out of a meeting with the FIA.
Just two weeks after peace appeared to have broken out in the wake of FOTA's threat to form a breakaway series, the battle lines have seemingly been drawn again.

The latest dispute centres around the legality of the eight teams' entry into next season's world championship, and voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations.

The furore follows a meeting of the FIA's Sporting Working Group chaired by Charlie Whiting, the FOTA eight - Ferrari, McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - as well as Williams, Force India and the three new teams in US F1, Campos Meta and Manor Grand Prix.

A statement issued by FOTA read: "Representatives of all FOTA teams attended a meeting of the Sporting Working Group at the Nurburgring today.

"During the course of this meeting, the team managers were informed by Charlie Whiting of the FIA that, contrary to previous agreements, the eight FOTA teams are not currently entered into the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship and have no voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations thereof.

"It will be remembered all eight active FOTA members were included on the "accepted" entry list as endorsed by the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) and communicated by FIA press statement on June 24.

"In light of these claims, the FOTA representatives requested a postponement of today's meetings.

"This was rejected on the grounds no new Concorde Agreement would be permitted before a unanimous approval of the 2010 regulations was achieved.

"However, it is clear to the FOTA teams that the basis of the 2010 technical and sporting regulations was already established in Paris.

"As endorsed by the World Motor Sport Council and clearly stated in the FIA press statement of June 24 'the rules for 2010 onwards will be the 2009 regulations as well as further regulations agreed prior to April 29, 2009'.

"At no point in the Paris discussions was any requirement for unanimous agreement on regulations change expressed.

"To subsequently go against the will of the WMSC and the detail of the Paris agreement puts the future of Formula One in jeopardy.

"As a result of these statements, the FOTA representatives at the subsequent Technical Working Group were not able to exercise their rights and therefore had no option other than to terminate their participation.

"The FOTA members undertook the Paris agreement and the subsequent discussions in good faith and with a desire to engage with all new and existing teams on the future of Formula One."

In their own statement, the FIA put it more bluntly as they said: "Following the decision of the World Council on 24 June to revert to the pre-29 April version of the 2010 F1 Sporting and Technical Regulations, the FIA today met the teams which have entered the 2010 championship to seek their agreement to these changes.

"All changes have now been agreed subject only to the maintenance of the minimum weight at 620kg and the signing of a legally binding agreement between all the teams competing in 2010 to reduce costs to the level of the early 1990s within two years, as promised by the FOTA representative in Paris on 24 June.

"The eight FOTA teams were invited to attend the meeting to discuss their further proposals for 2010.

"Unfortunately no discussion was possible because FOTA walked out of the meeting."

The walk out has again thrust F1 back into an unsavoury spotlight at a time when the sport finally appeared to be getting its act together after weeks of feuding.

[legion]

I'm about ready to beat Bernie silly.

At least Max is gone soon. No point in beating him. He'd get off on it.

Seems Charlie needs to be beaten too.

[herr_oberst]

The Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times" seems to have befallen the FIA.

Who saw this coming.

[imcarthur]

Originally Posted by legion

At least Max is gone soon.

Ah, but Max has been making noises about running again because FOTA bad-mouthed him after the agreement in June. And if he runs, he is a shoe-in. See my post above.

What a farce.

Ian