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speeder 07-17-2009 02:46 PM

If you stick to using "affect" as a verb and "effect" as a noun, you'll be right 99% of the time. That would put you ahead of 99% of the U.S. population.

livi 07-18-2009 01:06 AM

I read plenty of British Porsche magazines and I love their way of using the language. Beautiful although frequently hard to decipher the exact meaning. For example the word 'effect' is many times used in combinations like "..in effect.." or "to the effect that..". I have translated the former into 'actually/in reality' but the latter I am not sure about. What say the expert panel?

svandamme 07-18-2009 01:09 AM

i'm not english major, nor english native speaker, hell, i'm a high school dropout.
I don't really see why the effect/affect question would be so difficult, to affect you so much that, in effect, you post a thread about it.

ruf-porsche 07-18-2009 03:43 AM

How about flammable and inflammable.

Porsche_monkey 07-18-2009 04:38 AM

Flammable and non-flammable.

Dictionary.com:
Quote:

Inflammable and flammable both mean “combustible.” Inflammable is the older by about 200 years. Flammable now has certain technical uses, particularly as a warning on vehicles carrying combustible materials, because of a belief that some might interpret the intensive prefix in- of inflammable as a negative prefix and thus think the word means “noncombustible.” Inflammable is the word more usually used in nontechnical and figurative contexts...

ruf-porsche 07-18-2009 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche_monkey (Post 4783695)
Flammable and non-flammable.

If it is non flammable, why do they have signs posted warning you that gasoline is inflammable?

http://www.sportingcollectibles.com/...nflammable.jpg

rnln 07-18-2009 05:56 AM

according to MS dictionary inflammable is flammable. What I don't understand about the "in" rule is sometimes it's the reverse but sometimes it's the encouragement.

svandamme 07-18-2009 07:17 AM

Ruf-Porsche should have asked "inflammable or unflammable"

And the answer is :
The word flammable has it's origin in latin, inflammare, "to set fire to"
So the "in" does not have a reversal of what follows. It's not an english "in+...".

RWebb 07-18-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 4783599)
"..in effect.."

= has the same effect as, might as well be, simulates...

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 4783599)
"to the effect that..".

~~ less clear to me; got a sample sentence?
usually: in as much as, partially correlated with, yada yada...

above is for technical writing [biology/physiology], but likely same as regular speech

Zeke 07-18-2009 04:01 PM

In psychiatry, an affect is a mood, or, therefore a noun. A person can act "affected," which would seem to be an adverb and I think I could use the word as an adjective as well. I think "effect" is always a noun.


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