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Rick Lee 07-19-2009 08:15 PM

I hit the wall a few times when running marathons, usually around mile 23-24. I think that's the point at which your body is out of glycogen and starts burning pure fat, which is why you want to eat lots of pasta the night before. But you can only store so much glycogen. Once you're out of that and start burning fat, at least in my case, it felt like someone using a torch on my triceps. Your body is screaming out to be put to rest and your brain has to override. Not very healthy, but ok once in a blue moon. The worst part about hitting the wall is that, even if you start walking, you still have a ways to go. I used to have friends drop me off 10-15 miles away from my car, so there was no turning back. Very stupid, but I always made it. Dropped my ignition key once and didn't realize it until miles later. That really sucked.

dd74 07-20-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 4785964)
I think its just lack of riding or lack of miles.

Yep.

Next time you do a 40-miler in 92-degree heat, my bet is you'll go 34 to 35 of those 40 miles, if not all of them if you acclimate yourself to that distance, and if possible, that heat.

Electrolytes and bananas don't equal road work.

cantdrv55 07-20-2009 08:57 AM

I ride 40-60 miles fairly regularly but never in 90 degree heat. My rides are usually in and around the SF Bay Area where temps don't go much above 80 degrees. The ride last weekend was my first inland ride in 2 years.

vash 07-20-2009 09:34 AM

why do cyclist need to wear all the logos and stuff? does any other recreational sport do that? you dont play b-ball pickup games wearing full regalia from your favorite team.

i dont know if you bonked...maybe your body just gave up in embarrassment :D just messing with you CP...i dont know what you ride in. but i just saw a man go by me at the office. he was clearly being paid by T-mobile.

red-beard 07-20-2009 10:54 AM

We had logo jerseys and shorts from my former company. They were either free or heavily subsidized. I still use the shorts and will, until they wear out. Which is becoming soon.

The only other logo Jersey I have is for Cointreau. The local rep had them made up and he gives them away. It's really cool looking. I'll take a photo and post it. Not with me in it, that is too scary for words.

cantdrv55 07-20-2009 12:20 PM

I wear REI brand jerseys, Pearl Izumi brand bibs, shorts, socks and shoes and I ride an REI brand bike. No team logo stuff for me. Funny thing is those team logo clothes cost more than my store brand stuff. I guess that proves I'm cheap.

herr_oberst 07-20-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 4787101)
why do cyclist need to wear all the logos and stuff? does any other recreational sport do that? you dont play b-ball pickup games wearing full regalia from your favorite team.

Huh? What, are you Amish? Never get off the farm? No TV's around the house? I'm incredulous, just because it is so hard to buy ANY piece of clothing anymore without a logo, let alone sports and rec gear.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-20-2009 03:04 PM

These are my favorite two cycling jerseys (worn often). I don't do the "team jersey" thing either. Puke. So totally poseur-ish. If I ever decide to get on a team I'll wear a team jersey. Until then, I don't pretend to be part of a team (particularly Discovery, USPS, Astana, AG2R, Garmin-Slipstream or Columbia - all of which I see jokers riding around here in). I'm in no way good enough to be part of those teams and I don't pretend I am.

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vash 07-20-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 4787663)
Huh? What, are you Amish? Never get off the farm? No TV's around the house? I'm incredulous, just because it is so hard to buy ANY piece of clothing anymore without a logo, let alone sports and rec gear.

you know what i mean.

there is a huge difference between wearing a NIKE jersey with a swoosh on it, and the same nike jersey with Smirnoff vodka logo on it. think label versus advertisement.

dd74 07-20-2009 03:22 PM

That's how the cycling jerseys are intended: big bright, moving ads.

There was a brief mention about it during last night's TdF stage; that essentially, the advertisers (Liquigas, Rabobank, SaxoBank, Columbia, Astana, Skil, etc), are paying nothing but reaping the benefits of millions of dollars of advertising because the companies are both being seen and mentioned by the commentators.

The same goes for the bike manufacturers. If you've ever been near a bike similar to what they ride in Le Tour, you'd notice bold paint schemes and even bolder lettering showing who produces that particular rig.

Why do normal guys wear the stuff while cycling? Because it's well made.

It makes a helluva lot more sense than fat guys wearing Kobe Bryant jerseys who are nowhere near a basketball court.

vash 07-20-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4787777)

It makes a helluva lot more sense than fat guys wearing Kobe Bryant jerseys who are nowhere near a basketball court.


this is a very Strong point!

dd74 07-20-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 4787780)
this is a very Strong point!

How so? I've never seen a guy walking through the mall wearing a (or "the") yellow jersey. :rolleyes:

dd74 07-20-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 4787780)
this is a very Strong point!

Unless, of course, you agree with me...:D

herr_oberst 07-20-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 4787761)
you know what i mean.

there is a huge difference between wearing a NIKE jersey with a swoosh on it, and the same nike jersey with Smirnoff vodka logo on it. think label versus advertisement.

Man, I totally and sincerely apologize. I didn't mean to come off so harsh. I have no excuse, and I was out of line. I should never write on bb's right after work.

SmileWavy

JavaBrewer 07-20-2009 03:37 PM

I admit that in my early riding days I wore a 7-11 jersey...but I did buy if from Jeff Pierce at a local bike swap so it was the 'real deal'...;)

Mainly I wore prior year used stuff discarded from a couple pro friends of mine. Can't beat a box of 5 pro quality jerseys & shorts and a pair of shoes for ~ $100. The only 'legit' stuff I wore was from Celo Pacific when i was a member and of course the SDSU team stuff.

dd74 07-20-2009 03:49 PM

That 7-11 jersey is probably worth some money these days. Have you seen what the 7-11 bicycles are going for on the collector's market? :eek:

IIRC one of Eric Heiden's bike just sold for close to $10K.

Bob Goding 07-20-2009 03:57 PM

TdF
 
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red-beard 07-20-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4787251)
The only other logo Jersey I have is for Cointreau. The local rep had them made up and he gives them away. It's really cool looking. I'll take a photo and post it. Not with me in it, that is too scary for words.

Here ya gohttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1248140941.jpg

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John Rogers 07-20-2009 07:26 PM

Sounds like insufficient training miles to me to get acclimated to the weather. In the late 70s and through the 80s when I was racing I rode 200 miles a week in the winter and upped it to 400 or more by March and even on the short rides we always took 2 to 3 bottles along. There was not a lot of the newer electrolyte solutions as there is today and one bottle had tap water for the chemicals, one for tea, sugar and a pinch of salt and another with deluted Gatorade. I looked back at some old notes from 1983 and noted that a drink (sip) was required every 10 minutes at maximum.

That was pretty strandard in the San Diego area back then and served well on a hot ride like the Tecate to Ensenada ride.

look 171 07-21-2009 12:04 AM

The jersys weren't that way when I started riding. Plain riding cloths could be had all over local bike shops. It was a treat to see a another rider in ful gear (shorts and all) going the another way. We always notice each other. this in back in the early 80s. Not too many people wore Eurp pro team clothing. They were hard to come by, unlike today. only a few shops carried them. You just can't walk into REI and walk out with a flashy jersy. BAck then, you had to be a local team or club member inorder to buy their jersy, plus we get a discount. It was Montrose CC and PAA (pasadena Alth. Assoc.)for me.


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