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masraum 07-28-2009 02:41 PM

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/reciprocity.htm

Reciprocal States

* Alabama (PDF) (08-08-2006)
* Alabama Recognition (PDF)
o See note below (08-08-2006)
* Alaska (PDF) (09-26-2005)
* Arizona (09-15-1999)
* Arkansas (02-19-1998)
* Colorado-Original Agreement (PDF) (12-29-2004)
* Colorado ** (PDF) (06-20-2007)
o Updated Agreement Information
* Delaware (PDF) (11-01-2005)
* Florida (08-28-2000)
* Georgia (PDF) (11-22-2004)
* Idaho (PDF) (08-09-2004)
* Indiana (PDF) (11-02-2005)
* Kansas * (PDF) (01-30-2007)
o See note below
* Kentucky (08-30-2000)
* Louisiana (08-31-1998)
* Michigan * (PDF) (09-01-2005)
o See note below
* Mississippi (PDF) (09-07-2004)
* Missouri (PDF) (09-06-2005)
o See note below
* Montana (PDF) (11-29-2004)
* New Mexico (PDF) (11-30-2005)
o See note below
* North Carolina (04-19-2004)
* North Dakota (PDF) (02-04-2005)
* Oklahoma (07-24-1998)
* Pennsylvania (PDF) (02-28-2005)
* South Carolina (PDF) (02-25-2005)
* South Dakota (PDF) (09-06-2005)
o See note below
* Tennessee (08-30-2000)
* Utah (PDF) (09-03-2004)
* Wyoming (07-25-2002)


Unilateral States
For these states, you can come to TX, but we can't take our guns to your state.

* California (PDF) (11-18-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Connecticut (PDF) (05-04-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Hawaii (PDF) (01-13-2006)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Iowa (PDF) (04-14-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Maryland (PDF) (11-18-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Massachusetts (PDF) (11-18-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Nebraska (PDF) (02-16-2007)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Nevada (PDF) (03-24-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* New Jersey (PDF) (11-18-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* New York (PDF) (01-13-2006)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Rhode Island (PDF) (01-13-2006)
o Unilateral Proclamation
* Washington (PDF) (11-18-2005)
o Unilateral Proclamation

charleskieffner 07-28-2009 02:53 PM

when the reciprocal CCW law does pass for all 48 states . i guarrantee a very quick dip in CRIME!


bad guys will no longer feel its easy pickins anywhere!


and thats a DAMN GOOD THANG!

MotoSook 07-28-2009 03:12 PM

I stand corrected on TX in FL.

jyl 07-28-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4804609)
Depends on which lottery you're using. Here in Houston:

In 2007 there were 351 murders out of 2.2 million population. This is about 1:6300 odds, much much better odds than hitting most lotteries.

Adding the numbers for Rape, Assault and Personal Robbery, aka violent crime, the recorded crimes were 24564 in 2007. The odds then become 1:90. And this is PER YEAR.

Look up your own data here: www.city-data.com

The rate of violent crime is quite skewed by location and demographic.

Here is just one example: the rate of violent crime is 3X higher in metro arears than in the suburbs. Houston is the same as the national average - a 3X difference. http://www.demographia.com/db-crimev99.htm

In some cities, you can look up the crime statistics down to the neigborhood level.

For example, in my current neighborhood, for instance, there has been 1 possible homicide in the past 5 years. I didn't look back 5 years for rape, but there have been zero in the past year. Also zero assaults. 5K population. So, based on that one possible homicide, you get 0.0040% annual chance of being a homicide victim in this neighborhood. As in, over 90 years, a 0.36% chance of being a homicide victim. I think I'll have died of something else by then.

In my previous neighborhood in California, there were two homicides in the past 5 years (one in 2005 and one in 2006). Appx 22K population. 0.0018% annual chance of being a homicide victim there.

I don't feel any need to be armed in such places.

In some other neighborhoods, or if I indulged in certain behaviour or were in some particular occupations, I would feel quite differently. But I don't think most of us are in that situation. sniper is probably the exception, I see why he packs.

Rick Lee 07-28-2009 03:57 PM

Phoenix has horrendous violent crime stats. But if you don't associate with Mexican drug cartels and human smuggling rings, you're pretty safe. We do tend to have several justified shoots of home invasion perps per year. I guess they'll never learn.

charleskieffner 07-28-2009 04:38 PM

home invasions=TARGET PRACTICE and new drywall..............

azasadny 07-28-2009 06:02 PM

I carried my Sig P239 in 9mm last weekend driving to/from Porsches 2 Oxford and while I was there. Nobody saw it and it is easily concealed under a heavy t-shirt with an IWB cross-draw holster (DeSantis).

red-beard 07-28-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4804752)
The rate of violent crime is quite skewed by location and demographic.

Here is just one example: the rate of violent crime is 3X higher in metro arears than in the suburbs. Houston is the same as the national average - a 3X difference. http://www.demographia.com/db-crimev99.htm

In some cities, you can look up the crime statistics down to the neigborhood level.

For example, in my current neighborhood, for instance, there has been 1 possible homicide in the past 5 years. I didn't look back 5 years for rape, but there have been zero in the past year. Also zero assaults. 5K population. So, based on that one possible homicide, you get 0.0040% annual chance of being a homicide victim in this neighborhood. As in, over 90 years, a 0.36% chance of being a homicide victim. I think I'll have died of something else by then.

In my previous neighborhood in California, there were two homicides in the past 5 years (one in 2005 and one in 2006). Appx 22K population. 0.0018% annual chance of being a homicide victim there.

I don't feel any need to be armed in such places.

In some other neighborhoods, or if I indulged in certain behaviour or were in some particular occupations, I would feel quite differently. But I don't think most of us are in that situation. sniper is probably the exception, I see why he packs.

OK, using your 3x numbers, that is about 1 chance in 300 of being the victim of a crime per year. That is probably better odds than my house catching fire. No one gives me crap for having a few fire extinguishers around.

Do I feel unsafe? No. Do I think my house is going to catch fire? No. Just better safe/protected, than wishing I has the right tool, when it isn't there.

Jeff Higgins 07-28-2009 07:11 PM

Former Washington Governor Gary Locke had a reciprocity bill on his desk at least twice, maybe three times, and vetoed it every time. He also had a couple of range protection acts on his desk to sign, and vetoed them as well. The current wicked witch of King County shows little promise in this arena, either. Thank God for the Washington State Constitution; it's worded even more clearly than the 2nd Amendment with regard to the right to keep and bear arms.

alf 07-28-2009 07:12 PM

Nothing because i am living in Shanghai.

Being here, i realize more now that our rights to bare arms is less about self defense against thugs but more about keeping our government in check when necessary.


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