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Kind of goofy post.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:22 AM
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Really cool post.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:23 AM
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:51 AM
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Excellent, Stijn. I can imagine its tempting to go check that meter several times a day just to see how you are doing energy wise.
Actually, it's addictive..

The meter started off at 5.1 when the dude installed it this morning.



right now, it's at 4.9



while i've been on my computer all morning.




But truth be told, it's pretty much amateur stuff at the moment, the sun ain't out, sure my computer electricity was free, but i haven't done any cooking, no washing machine, no appliances that really use power have been on this morning..

And so far in 4 hours, the panels produced not even a full Kwh...
(price of 1 kwh =24.4064 Euro cents.. that's right, cents, not even full euro's)

So essentially in winter time the whole PV setup is barely enough to cover the dormant use of my low powered electronical appliances.

So in winter my meter will still keep register usage.. albeit at a slightly lower rate.
But in summer time, the meter will be going backwards at about 1 revolution of the disk, per 3 secs.. (1 kwh = 370 revolutions), so summer time will make up for the dark months in no time.


I calculated that i should have enough PV panels to cover my usage in an average Belgian year, including water heating all year round for 1 person, 1 decent shower a day, meaning i don't have to give up any comfort , at all.
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Still, watching every little kWh click in must feel pretty groovy.
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Markus, do folks have PV installs in Sweden?

I would imagine that it's less effective up north,
maybe South of Sweden still doable,but the north??
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Yes, absolutely Stijn. Although less in private homes. Mostly in larger buildings and even so the expected energy harvested is mostly just a relatively small part of the total consumption.
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Markus, does Sweden offer financial incentives to homeowners that want to put in solar cells? Stijn, does Belgium?
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Ok, so warming up mashed potatoes and baking a Schnitzel on the electric stove was good for about 200 Watt.
So on a greywinterday i can use my computer + cook 1 easy meal (no soup, no stew, no fancy oven dishes). Anything more will have to be powered by the grid.
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Markus, does Sweden offer financial incentives to homeowners that want to put in solar cells? Stijn, does Belgium?
yeah, they do, in fact, quite a bit.

10500 investment
- 620 by the city
- 4200 off my taxes next year

That brings the investment cost down to 5680


And it doesn't stop there.
For each 1000Kwh produced, i will get a "green power certificate".
they are worth 270 euro , guaranteed for 20 years
(used to be more, early adopters still get 500 euro per certificate).

in my case that's bout 810 euro / year

And the energy produced i can keep for myself, or sell back
It's not worth to sell back, the price is to low to make an actual profit in that.


ROI is 4.5 year.. the investment is covered by a subsidized, green loan with the government paying 1% off the interest.

Basically it's a no brainer, it's over subsidized.

But hey, i'm not complaining. I figured they were going to pull hte plug on the subsidies real soon, in fact the 620 of the city ends 4 December this year.
And the government is doing the 2012 budget now, which makes me think the subsidies will be cut severely next year.

Hence why i jumped on it now, as opposed to the earlier plan to do it next year...

Basically i slapped about the price of half a 3.2 Carrera on the roof of my garage... so i would save the cost of a full 911 over the 20-30 years
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Markus, does Sweden offer financial incentives to homeowners that want to put in solar cells? Stijn, does Belgium?
Yes, Jim. I donīt know to what extent though.
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Ok, so warming up mashed potatoes and baking a Schnitzel on the electric stove was good for about 200 Watt.
So on a greywinterday i can use my computer + cook 1 easy meal (no soup, no stew, no fancy oven dishes). Anything more will have to be powered by the grid.
So charging your electric toothbrush will shut down your computer.
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Thus, if you want to surf Pelican, cook AND charge your toothbrush you could perhaps build a small generator and put it on a stationary bike. Then you could mount your laptop on the handle and keep surfing while producing energy. As a bonus you will get a nice workout!
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Joking aside, I think you are on the right track. With the rising energy costs my electric bills last winter (in my old house) were ghastly. During November - March I payed the equivalent of roughly Euro 1000 per month.
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