which pedal gets the heel and which gets the toe?

pelican sells the nice rennline pedals.

Heel to throttle.
Toe to brake.

It's nearly impossible to on the 911, without modding the pedals.

Yes, they are nice.

For hard driving I found the gear stick to low.
I just made it 100mm longer.
Its now nice and high like a race car.
It feels nice and has closed the gap between steering wheel and gear stick. :)

and hard on the ankle. :confused:

I find it very difficult to heel-toe in a 911. And I've heel-toed in my daily drivers (Nissan and a Honda) for the past 15+ years. The stock 911 pedals are "hinged funny" and unless you mash on the brake, that pedal never depresses far enough that it's easy to roll your right ankle to blip the throttle with your heel (or whatever part of the foot reaches there) to get the job done smoothly. On the street, where you really shouldn't be threshold braking regularly anyway, I find it near impossible.

C'mon, Dave, am I that dangerous of a driver? How many accidents (or even face-to-the-windshield events) have I had in my entire driving career related to mixing up of pedals? Granted I wasn't there, but I submit that off road excursion you experienced was due more to driving ineptitude than anything else. Certainly using two feet for two pedals can set one up for driving misadventures, but so can not knowing what one's doing behind the wheel, regardless the pedal situation.

I don't trust people who drive with two feet. Half the time they ride their brakes and you can't tell what they are doing.

yep. i wonder what the purpose of pumping the gas is.

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Heel toe is just a name, it is NOT actually heel on one pedal and toe on the other. Your heel should be planted on the FLOOR. You position your foot and leg so as to place the center of the ball of your foot on the upper right corner of the brake pedal when braking. To operate the throttle you rock your foot to the right so the side of your foot operates the accelerator. If your foot is centered on the edge of the brake pedal it is surprising just how far you can rock your foot over to operate the accelerator.

Most models of Porsche have some sort of adjustment for the forward/back placement of either the accelerator or brake. I was thinking of moving the 928 accelerator pedal back just a bit as I sometimes hit the throttle unintentionally under hard braking.

I used to drive in leather loafers, there was a hole in the sole in the middle of the ball of the foot where the brake pedal fit nicely.

You don't trust me?! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/smi10.gif

Heel-toe came about because cars originally had the throttle and brake pedals reversed. That is, the throttle was on the left and the brake was on the right. So when racing, you could externally rotate your right leg and apply the toes to the brake while blipping the throttle with the heel of your foot. But that's 1920's or 1930's era cars, IIRC.

Somewhere along the way the throttle pedal moved to the right and the brake pedal sat on the left. It's still called heel-and-toe, but you have to contort your leg much more to make it work smoothly.

It has been few months since I drove my 911time but I used both feet its not an automatic.....maybe that's why I'm so slow.

Those look just like the leather loafers I used to wear driving!!! Notice the placement of his foot on the edge of the brake pedal.

The commentary I heard when they were talking about the difference between Schumacher and Senna was that he used the pedal pumping to keep the car at the limit. Notice, no left foot braking. On the telemetry thing it looked like Barrichello did similar pumping through the corner.

Actually, in the books I've read they describe early race cars having the brake and throttle one on top of the other so you really did operate one with your heel and the other with your toe.

this is similar to how i drive already. i think i just need a bit of practice.

I would suggest learning to heel/toe with loafers like in the Senna video. The thin leather soles give you a lot better feel of where your foot is at than tennis or even todays driving shoes with their rubber soles.

Tried to find a good pedal dance video, but couldn't find anyone left foot braking that was using the clutch pedal. No wonder I keep hearing all that transmission whine in the current racing videos!

Howdy guys. My heel & toe it usually limited to blipping the throttle to help match RPMs for easy shifting with a 915 transmission.