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Jim Richards 02-03-2013 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7249011)
Morning Y'all.
Okay Pete we need to talk, this white crap is getting annoying

Hej, alla! <Swedish, for Markus>

There's more in the forecast. I think I need to head to SoCal sooner than I planned, like today!

Rick V 02-03-2013 04:14 AM

Take me with you jim
please

Jim Richards 02-03-2013 04:18 AM

Sure thing, Rick. :D

Rick V 02-03-2013 04:21 AM

Ya think you can fit me into your carry on?

Jferr006 02-03-2013 04:36 AM

My 944 came with about 7 keys. I have identified most of them but there is an all metal key that has the Porsche crest stamped on it, I have not idea what it goes to. Every hole is accounted fr except the alarm but, it doesn't fit that.

Rick V 02-03-2013 04:38 AM

I forgot about the alarm on those things. Do yourself a favor and do some research and bypass that thing. Nothing but trouble will happen with that old fender mounted, key operated pos

Jferr006 02-03-2013 04:41 AM

Already bypassed it :) it's just two jumper pins.

Rick V 02-03-2013 04:48 AM

Good mommy.
When I bought Lanna I was removing an alarm that was installed by some fly by night alarm company, and found it was hooked into an un-go, that I found was hooked into a clifford alarm. I spent a day removing alarms.
I also found a Yamaha power amp under the pass floorboard. I think I yanked fifty lbs of crap and wire from her

Rick V 02-03-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 7248945)
Holy smokes, they're nearly $500! The two fuel pumps (one in front, the other in back) cost that much together.

Before you start throwing money and parts at a car making guesses, you need to figure out what is wrong. Have you checked the fuel pressure while the car is in no start mode?
Just ship the car to me and I'll fix it right the first time. Shipping costs might be cheaper than just throwing parts at it.

pete3799 02-03-2013 05:29 AM

Send the S_ _ _ this way.
Our local, all volunteer, ski area(wife is a board member) is having the annual S_ _ _mobile hill climb next weekend and we have no S to speak of. Bring your sled up Rick..........oh wait......
northeastslopes.org

Rick V 02-03-2013 05:31 AM

Sled? Hell I use a canoe or old car hood. :)

azzarule 02-03-2013 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7249092)
Sled? Hell I use a canoe or old car hood. :)

wow that's upmarket, we use a plastic bag!

Rick V 02-03-2013 05:46 AM

Well it is hard to find a plastic bag that a 6-4 guy can sled on.

azzarule 02-03-2013 05:56 AM

true

Rick V 02-03-2013 06:08 AM

I think today we are going to use the Boxster as a sled

GH85Carrera 02-03-2013 06:24 AM

Morning folks.

Clear blue skies and a high of 61 today. It is kind cool right now, it is 40 degrees now.

I guess today is Super Bowl Sunday. An excuse to eat some chips and drink beer. Like I need an excuse for that.

fintstone 02-03-2013 06:49 AM

Noah

Have you tried the DME relay...those seem to be the common cause of intermittant, fuel related, starting problems in latter 80's models of both 911s and 944s. It is easy to test as you can just jumper around it (when it is not starting) on the fuse block. Had a similar problem with my '89.

Noah930 02-03-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 7249013)
Ouch! Are you sure the problem is with the accumulator? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7249081)
Before you start throwing money and parts at a car making guesses, you need to figure out what is wrong. Have you checked the fuel pressure while the car is in no start mode?
Just ship the car to me and I'll fix it right the first time. Shipping costs might be cheaper than just throwing parts at it.

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7249185)
Noah

Have you tried the DME relay...those seem to be the common cause of intermittant, fuel related, starting problems in latter 80's models of both 911s and 944s. It is easy to test as you can just jumper around it (when it is not starting) on the fuse block. Had a similar problem with my '89.

The injection is CIS, so no DME of the later Motronic systems. In the meantime, I've cleaned all the contacts on the usual relay/fuse culprits (well, except for the speed relay under the driver's seat).

No, I'm not sure it's the fuel accumulator. But it's an intermittent, usually warm start problem. If I drive the car and turn the motor off, I won't be able to restart for about 5-10 minutes. Acts like there is some sort of vapor lock. Is the fuel accumulator going? One of the check valves in a fuel pump (as those are supposed to work in concert with the fuel accumulator to positively pressurize the system)? Some odd vacuum leak in the CIS system? My WUR?

I haven't purchased a set of gauges to check fuel & CIS pressures. I've been trying do things in order of least expensive --> most expensive, and/or most common --> less common.

Rick V 02-03-2013 07:41 AM

Vac leak, start the car and let it get to operating temp, then remove the oil fill cap, the engine should drop rpm.
I will give you it sounds like the accumulator, but...............
Do you still have the 02 sensor?
Is the temp switch in the right chain housing still there and functioning properly? It should close at 60 deg and be open below that

Noah930 02-03-2013 07:44 AM

O2 sensor is unplugged. It's been that way as long as I've had the car (PO did it). Simple enough to plug it back together, but then the car harmonically surges on steady throttle (cycling of the lambda system?) so I've left it that way (disconnected).

I've never noticed much of an rpm drop when removing the oil filter cap with the engine running, so there may be some element of a baseline CIS vacuum leak.


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