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Nathans_Dad 09-20-2009 08:14 PM

Computer guys...PC motherboard question
 
Since I am the family computer geek, it has fallen to me to try and resurrect my father in law's PC. No big deal, he wanted to put it together to have for the grandkids to play on. He has another which he uses for his work.

Anyhow, the thing has a bad IDE connector. There are only two on the board. So, you can either plug in the hard drive or the CD ROM, but not both. I pulled the motherboard out and was planning on just buying a cheap replacement off the net.

Here's the kicker. The damn thing is a Dell. So of course it is a funky mobo with non-standard connections. The computer in question is a Dell Dimension 4550. It has a P4 2.5 ghz processor on it. I have read that Dell also uses non-standard power connections and such so you can't use the power supply unless you buy another Dell mobo. Of course their replacement sells for $120, which is ridiculous.

Any ideas? I guess I could just buy a new case and mobo and start from scratch...problem is I'd have to buy a heat sink too.

slodave 09-20-2009 08:19 PM

I put an Intel MB in a Dell case. I think I lost the front USB and sound connection. You can get everything else to work.

HardDrive 09-20-2009 08:30 PM

Can you post a photo of the power supply connectors?

I don't know your specific machine, but yes, Dell mobos tend to be non standard, along with their cases. Processor, memory, and HD are all usable, but chances are you will need a new case, mobo, and possibly a power supply. Given how cheap one can get a new PC these days, not sure its worth your time.

slodave 09-20-2009 08:36 PM

Power supply connections are standard.

bonkers 09-20-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 4908905)
Anyhow, the thing has a bad IDE connector. There are only two on the board. So, you can either plug in the hard drive or the CD ROM, but not both.

Does not compute: a single IDE channel is capable of supporting two drives and you can mix Hard Drive and CD-ROM on one channel. You just need an IDE cable with two connectors - few $ - and make sure the jumper on the back of the CD-ROM is set to slave. The Hard Drive should already be set to Master but check that also.

Might notice a bit of a performance hit if it's trying to access both drives but it will work.

Neilk 09-20-2009 08:55 PM

Why not buy a pci IDE card and run the hard drive off it? Do they still sell those ? I'm on my BB, otherwise I would look it up.

slodave 09-20-2009 08:56 PM

Bonkers is right in trying to connect both to one channel.

rnln 09-20-2009 10:09 PM

In old/IDE cable, there usually 2 connectors, one can be for HD and one can be for the CD/DVD. If this cable doesn't have both, maybe a visit to a computer store for a cable?

dad911 09-21-2009 03:31 AM

Yes, 2 drives on an IDE port, 1 master and 1 slave. Or lose the internal CD, and plug in an external DVD through the USB.

gsmith660 09-21-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 4908942)
Why not buy a pci IDE card and run the hard drive off it? Do they still sell those ? I'm on my BB, otherwise I would look it up.

+1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150410%201193212 548&name=IDE

azasadny 09-22-2009 06:04 PM

Promaise sells cards to add hard drives, check on eBay. Promise Ultra100TX2, I believe...

slodave 09-22-2009 07:01 PM

There's no reason to spend money until he tries to hook the HD and optical drive to the second channel.


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