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Yankees - Angels

I'm not a huge baseball fan; but when it comes to playoffs, it's hard to beat MLB championship series and the world series. It seems in the the last few years, there's been lots of drama and lots to cheer about.

...they come a very close second to the NHL's second season

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I agree, not a huge fan but it's fun during the LCS and World Series.

I think baseball needs a salary cap, though. It's pretty ridiculous to basically allow a team to buy their way into the LCS or World Series, like the Yankees.

They spend more than 10X the lower level teams, and their top player makes more than some teams whole payroll! Kind of sucks that at least half the teams really have no realistic chance, based on money alone.
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Angels are giving them a good game. Yankees are tough. I wish the Dodgers would have tripped up the Phillys - looks like the Yanks won't get to play against Joe in the big show.

Are these guys worth millions? Who knows. What they do is pretty freaking tough but at the end of the day a man is worth what someone will pay him.
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Nice crack by Damon - went yard for 400 feet. That puts another nail into it. 7-1 bottom of the 8th. I don't see the Angels coming back.
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Sabathia is one huge dude and a pitching machine....

If it turns out to be the Yankees and Phillies in the WS, should be pretty good.
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Are these guys worth millions? Who knows. What they do is pretty freaking tough but at the end of the day a man is worth what someone will pay him.
It's not a matter of whether any individual player is worth millions (I think they all earn what they get paid, by definition).

A salary cap is used in other sports, the NBA, and I think the NFL. It isn't designed to prevent individual players from getting paid millions and millions (see Kobe's paycheck, or any NBA player's paycheck), it is designed to help create at least some parity among the teams. Which, IMO, is a good thing.

Pro sports are entertainment, and a league seems more entertaining when its not a situation where really 75% of the teams have little to no chance, based solely on their geographic location in the country (small market teams have little chance in MLB, they can't generate the revenue like the Yankees, Dodgers, etc., so they can't simply "buy" wins like the Yankees do).
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Sabathia is one huge dude and a pitching machine....

If it turns out to be the Yankees and Phillies in the WS, should be pretty good.
I hope it's the Yankees the Phillies get to face in the WS. The Phils back to back world series titles will mean more if the 2nd comes vs the legendary and reviled by everyone on earth Yankees.

The Phillies have dominated 5 straight post season series, so here's to hoping they can make it six.



And who was it last year here on Pelican that said the Phillies were nothing special? No more than mediocre, i believe he said....

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I was surprised that the Angels were able to win a single game. The Yankees lineup, top to bottom, is outrageous. Nobody is beating them this year. Barring catastophic Yankee injury, the Phillies have zero chance -- that's right, zero - of repeating.

Don't confuse me for a Yankee fan -- I'm a Red Sox fan. But this roster is stacked. Even as a large market fan and knowing it would make the Sox less competitive, I'm starting to believe the argument for salary caps. It isn't right that NY can buy this team while Kansas City -- a city with a fine baseball history in it's own right -- is destined for the cellar every year.

For that reason, I was actually hoping that the Yanks would sweep all 3 series to the championship and maybe get more people thinking that a salary cap is necessary.
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What's the minimum wage in the big league now, about $300k a year?
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you would have to have some hefty fines for a salary cap because if not then boston and ny would ignore the 'rules' like they do now. for me baseball was over early oct. these must be preseason exhibition games.
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I was surprised that the Angels were able to win a single game. The Yankees lineup, top to bottom, is outrageous. Nobody is beating them this year. Barring catastophic Yankee injury, the Phillies have zero chance -- that's right, zero - of repeating.

Don't confuse me for a Yankee fan -- I'm a Red Sox fan. But this roster is stacked. Even as a large market fan and knowing it would make the Sox less competitive, I'm starting to believe the argument for salary caps. It isn't right that NY can buy this team while Kansas City -- a city with a fine baseball history in it's own right -- is destined for the cellar every year.

For that reason, I was actually hoping that the Yanks would sweep all 3 series to the championship and maybe get more people thinking that a salary cap is necessary.
How many Philly games a year do you watch? 2? 3?

The Phillies led the NL in all kinds of categories, and have perhaps the most dangerous line up in baseball. What's more they have the defending AL Cy Young award winner, and the reigning World Series MVP pitching for them. Had lidge and co. not blown so many saves (17) earlier in the year the Phillies could be a 110 win team right now.

The Phillies BUILT their team, they did not buy it like the Yankees did.

The Phillies will crush the Yankees in 5 games, just like they crush everyone else that faces them.

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How many Philly games a year do you watch? 2? 3?

The Phillies led the NL in all kinds of categories, and have perhaps the most dangerous line up in baseball. What's more they have the defending AL Cy Young award winner, and the reigning World Series MVP pitching for them. Had lidge and co. not blown so many saves earlier in the year the Phillies could be a 110 win team right now.

The Phillies BUILT their team, they did not buy it like the Yankees did.

The Phillies will crush the Yankees in 5 games, just like they crush everyone else that faces them.
I've seen a handful of Phillies games this year, they do have the best lineup in the NL. But the NL sucks -- hell, John Smoltz and Brad Penny had some success in the NL after getting SHELLED with regularity in Boston.

Phillies will be lucky to last 5 games against the Yanks.

I will say this though -- with new Yankee Stadium and Citizens Bank Park as the two venues, we should see some home runs!
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For that reason, I was actually hoping that the Yanks would sweep all 3 series to the championship and maybe get more people thinking that a salary cap is necessary.
I've been saying this for a decade. The problem is the Yanks could have the best record year after year, make the World Series, but if they don't win it you'll have people saying "see, money can't buy you a World Series". I hope they win it every season so fans wake up. As a Brewers fan we all knew where CC was going. The same place Prince Fielder will be when his contract runs out.
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I've seen a handful of Phillies games this year, they do have the best lineup in the NL. But the NL sucks -- hell, John Smoltz and Brad Penny had some success in the NL after getting SHELLED with regularity in Boston.

Phillies will be lucky to last 5 games against the Yanks.

I will say this though -- with new Yankee Stadium and Citizens Bank Park as the two venues, we should see some home runs!
The NL sucks? The NL has the team that is the reigning world champion....

Phillies will repeat in 5 games vs NY.

Top to bottom, the Phillies are better than the NYY, it's as simple as that. After they win again this year, we can start talking about the Phillies dynasty, and how they're the team of the decade...

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Phillies are a good team no doubt. If they can carry their confidence/swagger into the WS then they have a shot. After sweeping Boston I thought the Angels were on a roll but somehow NY appears to have sucked sucked out their mojo.

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I was actually hoping that the Yanks would sweep all 3 series to the championship and maybe get more people thinking that a salary cap is necessary.
Agreed. Sucked to be a Padres fan this year...


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The Phillies have carried their swagger and confidence for a reason. They are the defending world champions of baseball, and are on the cusp of repeating.

Nothing could be sweeter than doing so against the filthy stinking Yankees.

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The NL sucks? The NL has the team that is the reigning world champion....

Phillies will repeat in 5 games vs NY.

Top to bottom, the Phillies are better than the NYY, it's as simple as that. After they win again this year, we can start talking about the Phillies dynasty, and how they're the team of the decade...
Should this happen, I will join your thread and bow to your superior powers of prognostication.

But I think there's a better chance of you moving to California, to paraphrase the sentiment of an often quoted post.

This is why they play the games. Your confidence in the Phillies has me interested in seeing the games now! But..if the Yanks lose, who the hell will they go out and buy this offseason?
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The Phillies have several future hall of famers playing for them, some real all time greats in the making. These guys are writing their legends as we speak.

As i told my friend the other day during Rollins 9th inning at bat, "He is writing his legend right now. If he gets a hit here, it will be remembered as one of the greatest moments in team history for decades."

Sure enough, he did, and it will.

Rollins, Victorino, Howard, Utley, Lee, Hamels, Lidge- these guys are already legends here in Philly- and they're all in the heart of their prime. Add NL rookie of the Year J.Happ and the Phillies future just keeps looking brighter and brighter. This is a team that COULD win 3 or 4 titles before time puts a period at the end of their time here in Philly.

The one guy the Phillies lost from their world championship team last year has been replaced by Ibanez, a guy that promptly came here and hit 37 home runs and had the best year of his career.When Hamels was struggling earlier in the year the Phillies went out and added the reigning AL Cy Young winner, a guy that has an ERA well under 1.0 in the post season this year.

But most importantly, the Phillies are a team built "the right way." As just one glaring example, contrast Ryan Howard to A-Rod. Both supremely talented, but Howard is 10000x the team mate and man that A-Rod is. Not selfish, not me first, Howard is a true team player- he is what everyone in NY WISHES A-Rod was.

A-Rod is just Manny Rodriguez without the dreadlocks. A selfish non-caring mercenary.

Is it a LOCK that the Phils will win? No. But they have every bit as much talent as the Yankees, if not more- and the Phillies are a complete team. They are not going to be intimidated by those Yankee pinstripes. The Phillies are the ones standing where the Yankees want to be, not the other way around.

Besides, it is very rare for a defending champ that makes it back to the finals to be defeated- in any sport. It happens, but it's quite rare.

Might evil prevail and the Yankees win? Maybe...but it will take a herculean effort to beat the Phillies, who have a (EDIT, make that) 18-5 record in their last two post seasons. No team has even managed to so much as win 2 games against them in any series during the Phillies last 2 post season runs.

By the way, the Phillies smoked Yankees ace C.C. Sabbathia in the playoffs last year, when he was playing in the NL. TWICE.


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