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Feelin' Solexy
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Is it ever OK to give less than 2 weeks notice?
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Time to move on, but I always like to give notice.
He should start the new job ASAP, but should speak with current employer about it, he might be helping them out by leaving sooner rather than later.
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Give notice to avoid burning bridges, but considering that they're getting rid of him anyway..... I would vote to give as much notice as possible. Ultimately you can only concern yourself with doing the right thing, and notice is the right thing, no matter how many days it is. He should simply do the best he can.
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I'd say look at it this way....the company already gave him like 7 weeks notice. I'd be gone that afternoon.
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You give two weeks notice.
That he has a hard date that he will be laid off is not relevant. If I ask a candidate who is currently in another position "when can you start"? And they respond with less than 2 weeks it's a red flag for me. Always take the high road. No telling when you may end up working with a former colleague or supervisor in some capacity or another.
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Tobra: "...speak with current employer about it, he might be helping them out by leaving sooner rather than later."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An employer for 29 yrs.: I always wanted the notice period to match the pay period. I paid bi-monthly - so two weeks was fine w/me. . Nothing like having a friendly chat w/employer, like Tobra said. They may be delighted to cut him away. I had more grief w/employees who were on the covert side. All employers love it when you're straight-up. It says that you're honest. Who knows, he may some day need a fuzzy from his current company
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One time I gave less that two weeks notice. I never felt good about it but I needed OUT! They were running me ragged and I did the best I could not to burn any bridges but giving less than 2 weeks is most certainly going to regardless of the situation. In the end I wish I hadn't done it on principal alone.
A recent departee of my current company gave a week's notice. His manager was irritated with it. It is unprofessional but in the same breath - if you are at will your company can fire you at any time with generally no reason. Still, the professional thing to do is 2 weeks. Can't hurt.
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Most companies do not have to give you 2 weeks notice in a layoff, why should you have to give them 2 weeks notice?
I would work out a start date with company B, then tell your present employer you are leaving. Unless company B needs you tomorrow.
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It's really not that hard of a position to be in. First he talks to the new company and asks how soon they would want him on board if he was able to move right away, and how long they're willing to wait if he needs to wrap up loose ends.
Once he knows the new employer's parameters he goes to the old employer and tells them that he ha a new job and that he is going to be leaving but he's willing to work with them on the timing. He would like to leave on such and such a date, but is willing to move as soon as X but no later than Y. X and Y being the soonest and latest dates given by the new employer. As suggested above, it's likely they'll opt for the fastest they can get rid of him, but that's a decision best left to them. You never want to burn bridges and you should act classy all the time, even if the other guy doesn't deserve it.
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I have to think that current employer will ask Rog if he wants to leave earlier, circumstances being what they are.
Expect it, but don't depend on it, plan to work 2 more weeks. make sure the new firm understands this is what you're doing. This is just business, another negotiation. BTW - is there a severance pack that goes along with the potential layoff?
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Would ask them if its possible to give less than two weeks and go from there. Both sides know that he is gone, but be professional and do not burn bridges.
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It is a poor start at the new job to show you have no loyalty to your employer.
Give them two weeks. |
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I would tell my current employer: "I have a job offer and they have asked if I could start in xx days. I want to give you ample notice, will this timeline be ok?" At that point, you come to something that is mutually agreeable.
As far as the new company, you tell them that you will start when your employer releases you. If you think about it, a few days change in your start date does not really matter to the new employer. At this point in time, you are perfect and they should be accomodating. Like others said, it is a negotiation.
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Yep!
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It sounds like roger is a professional and a severence package has to be in the equation, if there is no severence and the new company needs him now then I'd give 2-3 days, with all the lay off's that have happened they can call someone else to take his place. The old is gone and the new people are counting on him asap so I'd say go asap.
Looks like the old company will fold so why worry, I've never given more than 3 days notice, but finding work has never been a problem, it finds me, if you have a skill that people need then go, if your old company is going into a "quiet time" that means they have poor managment that can't find the work to keep them afloat. Go, Go now cause the new company is who are going to paying the bills. I have a distorted view as I'm sure a lot will agree but I go where the money is and have no loyality to where the money was. |
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Be proffesional and give the 2 weeks notice if you have secured your next gig....................they may tell you to walk anyway..............................it's happened to me
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As a business owner I would normally say yes give to weeks and let the business decide if you stay two weeks or not. In this economy I think Roger needs to jump to his new job ASAP. A week should be sufficient so the company is not in disarray with his unfinished work log. Also, unless his position is some sort of specialized position the company should be able to find a replacement in short order. In fact even specialised positions have a surplus work force. Unemployment up to 10.2% today.
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Feelin' Solexy
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Hey guys,
wow, lots of feedback! I IM'ed with him this AM, and the new company (the one hiring him) has agreed to a start date of Dec. 1, but says if he is available earlier so much the better. He tendered his resignation today with the full two weeks notice, but apparently the people who would make the decision as to whether to have him serve out the two weeks vs leaving earlier are not available, so no clarity on what the company will decide regarding his last day. Also as far as severance (since some asked) he's getting a week of pay for each year employed (so 3 weeks of pay total) if he stays until his scheduled end date. I believe that the hiring company did something to sweeten the pot for him in terms of signing bonus, so I guess he is cool walking away from the severance package. I will be seeing him Sunday (he's one of my best friends, lived next door to me in my Freshman dorm) and I'll update the thread if there's anything new then.
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He should send his boss this postcard:
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Best of luck at the new place.
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