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peppy 01-13-2010 11:21 AM

I have no credit
 
My wife and I are trying to borrow money against a home that is in my name, I have no credit score and my wife's is 830. The problem is that the house is not in her name so they will not issue a loan. She has to have owned the house for 6 months before we can do a loan.

How do I build a credit score without borrowing money?

This is really inconvenient.

kaisen 01-13-2010 11:27 AM

A couple years ago, you'd have no problem

Hard-Deck 01-13-2010 11:30 AM

That's really weird. My dad and mom have NEVER purchased anything on credit, not even a house and they have credit scores.

legion 01-13-2010 11:32 AM

Do you have a mortgage on the home?

Do you have a credit card?

Do you have bills in your name?

Do you have a car loan?

If yes to any of the above, you have a credit score. Go to a different bank, they're jerking you around or you are dealing with an idiot.

Rikao4 01-13-2010 11:38 AM

no score with any of the big 3 ?
even long dead and fictional folks have a score..

Rika

peppy 01-13-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 5124152)
Do you have a mortgage on the home?

Do you have a credit card?

Do you have bills in your name?

Do you have a car loan?

If yes to any of the above, you have a credit score. Go to a different bank, they're jerking you around or you are dealing with an idiot.

no

no

yes a cell phone and Dish network

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legion 01-13-2010 11:41 AM

You have a score, but without any kind of credit history, it's probably very low.

Even taking out a credit card and not using it would boost your credit score.

peppy 01-13-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 5124169)
no score with any of the big 3 ?
even long dead and fictional folks have a score..

Rika

The lady from the bank is going to check the other 2. The bank had checked experian.

Dueller 01-13-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peppy (Post 5124129)
My wife and I are trying to borrow money against a home that is in my name, I have no credit score and my wife's is 830. The problem is that the house is not in her name so they will not issue a loan. She has to have owned the house for 6 months before we can do a loan.

How do I build a credit score without borrowing money?

This is really inconvenient.

Go to a small local bank or credit union that manually underwrites loans and doesn't rely on FICO. Why no utilities in your name?

craigster59 01-13-2010 11:56 AM

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peppy 01-13-2010 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 5124178)
Go to a small local bank or credit union that manually underwrites loans and doesn't rely on FICO. Why no utilities in your name?

We are with a local small bank.

My wife and I live in a state park and the utilities are in the states name.

911Rob 01-13-2010 12:04 PM

that's what loan sharks are for. Tough to get equity loans ever since the equity fell out of everything. Try a mortgage broker, if the house is free and clear you should be able to get a loan.

GH85Carrera 01-13-2010 12:05 PM

Wow, with no credit cards how do you buy parts from Pelican? :)

Are you dealing with the bank that you have a checking or savings account with?

My MIL was in a similar situation. She wanted to go on a vacation to Ireland. She applied for a credit card and he had no credit history. They had always paid for things with a check and never borrowed money. She went down to the bank and talked to the bank president. She had been his grade school teacher many years before. The bank issued her a CC with no problems once a person with brains looked at her bank accounts.

peppy 01-13-2010 12:12 PM

I use my wife's card.

No, I have all the business accounts with this bank. This is the bank I barrow money from.


I could get the money as long as I didn't want a 20 year fixed rate. The bank will do 7.5% for 10 years and I want 4.75% for 20 years. With this there are more hurdles, Fannie Mae.

911Freak 01-13-2010 01:53 PM

Peppy-
Maybe take that 10 year @ 7.5% and refi out of it after 24 months into an FHA product (620 min, or zero score required depending on LTV and co borrower)
Or refinance with your local bank product.

Actually there may still be a few FHA products where no score is required...check it out with a local FHA approved broker, Wells Fargo might offer them as well!
Again, the fact you own a free and clear home and your wife has solid credit history is the key.

I'm in CA so I can't really help with NC specifics

With both of you on the loan your credit score will improve drastically as long as you manage your finances responsibly, there really isn't a quick fix for this anymore.

Just thinking out of the box here:
With you doing all of your business accounts through your local bank they really ought to think a little out of the box for you, if:

1) You have a solid history with your business accounts (zero nsf, carry positive balances, savings balance, business equity etc)

2) Verifiable income

3) Debt to income ratios within:
25% front end (gross income vs purposed mortgage payment)
36% Back end
(gross income vs all monthly debt liability incl. purposed mortgage payment+tax insurance)

4) Collateral: your free & clear home is 1st rate collateral

5) your wife has a solid credit history supporting her score

Remember the 3 C's of lending:
Credit-Capability-Collateral
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Otherwise maybe having your wife put you on her credit cards would help. This is/was frowned upon due to many people manipulating scores to qualify for loans....Oh wait, never mind :rolleyes:


The cell service payment history should show on your credit report in a positive way, however if that is all you have it may not (should not) be enough to suffice a credit score YMMV

Good Luck and PM me if I can help!

SmileWavy

peppy 01-13-2010 01:57 PM

Thanks everyone, if I fail on the other two credit reports I will do a short term not and refinance after the six month period.

onewhippedpuppy 01-13-2010 02:55 PM

You need a new bank that can look outside of a stupid number.

Hugh R 01-13-2010 03:20 PM

Wow, I co-signed a used car loan for my 20 y/o son who had NO credit. Mine was 830 or so on all three credit bureaus. No expert, but get a credit card of any kind, pay it off, buy a car, make payments, buy a house, make payments, don't be late on anything, don't get too many credit cards.

peppy 01-13-2010 03:32 PM

I did buy cars a 911 and a jetta financed both with this bank both were 3 year notes and I paid the 911 off in 26 months and the jetta in 18 months. I just haven't borrowed anything since.

peppy 01-13-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 5124562)
You need a new bank that can look outside of a stupid number.

I think you many be right.


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