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vash 01-15-2010 04:51 PM

i think i want a GLOCK!
 
i am a true SIG fan..but i just shot my brother's service piece. a GLOCK 21! he had the 3.5 lb, factory trigger, and some glowing sight pins...(i dont know if they are those iridium ones or not..maybe fiber optics?). i shoot it way better than my old Sig226! way better.

i think the Glock 21-SF would fit me better. bro is going to find me a used one from some cops.

peppy 01-15-2010 05:13 PM

My wife loves hers.

vash 01-15-2010 05:16 PM

dude! my wife is the one balking at my purchase. sometimes i think it would help if zombies were a reality!! hahhaha.

Tim Hancock 01-15-2010 05:17 PM

Ha ha! I always thought I hated the look and feel of Glocks, but since I bought one for IDPA competition, I am hooked. I positively love the fact that there is no safety to hassle with after drawing the weapon during timed fire drills. What initially felt like an odd grip now after over a thousand rounds feels better than any other handgun I have ever fired.

I guess there is a reason guys like Bob Vogel and David Sevigny choose Glocks for their competition weapons of choice..... They flat out kick azz when used in defensive scenario based speed shooting. The Springfield Armory XDM's are also starting to gain popularity.... I almost went that route as it initially felt better in my hand, but all the local top IDPA guys use Glocks so I went that route and am now more than happy with my Glock 34.

peppy 01-15-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 5128263)
dude! my wife is the one balking at my purchase. sometimes i think it would help if zombies were a reality!! hahhaha.

My wife carries hers for work. (opossum patrol:D)

red-beard 01-15-2010 05:24 PM

3.5 lb hammer seems pretty low for a DAO pistol

stogie25 01-15-2010 05:28 PM

I like my first generation Glock 21. I have had it a long time, and shot it many times. It has fired every round I have put through it without a hickup. I am as accurate with it as I am with any of my very expensive firearms.

HHI944 01-15-2010 05:30 PM

I'm surprised his department lets that go. Most gunsmiths are a little edgy about setting a trigger that low on a carry piece and PD's are notorious for being fanatical about that type stuff.

All that said, if you can shoot one proficiently, go for it. They are very good weapons, some people just can't shoot em worth a crap (myself included).

masraum 01-15-2010 05:41 PM

About a year ago I shot a bunch of guns. I figured that the gun that I was most accurate and most comfortable with would be the best gun for me. I tried the classics,1911s and BHP. I tried Sigs, Kahrs and a Glock and Springfield XD. I really liked the BHP and the 1911, but the Glock and Springfield XD were the guns that I was most accurate with. They were virtually the same, but there was something about the XD made me pick it instead of the Glock. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

vash 01-15-2010 05:49 PM

i think just the SWAT guys have the 3.5 trigger. he said it was a simple matter of changing out a spring? i wasnt paying attention.

i want one.

Tim Hancock 01-15-2010 05:58 PM

Glock 34 & 35's (competition optimized 9mm and .40) come stock with the 3.5 lb trigger "connector" which does not mean it has a 3.5 lb trigger "pull"at the center of the trigger. My stock 34 measured about 5 - 5.5 lbs when measured at the center of the trigger. I did some polishing and changed the springs as recommended by some fellow master IDPA shooters and ended up at 3.5-4 lbs measured at the center of the trigger.

The 3.5 connector has a lighter pull than the 5.5, but to accomplish this, the trigger pull length from the point where all slack is removed to the point that the cruciform clears the striker becomes slightly longer. This is fine for relatively close in (3-25 yards) speed shooting where one typically only needs to hit an 8" dia area on the center mass of a silhouette, but I would never choose a Glock or any other double action for precise bullseye type of target shooting at longer distances.

911boost 01-15-2010 06:12 PM

I have had my Glock 22 since around 2000, when I carried it for work. I also very much enjoy shooting it. I have never had a single problem with it.

Tim Hancock 01-15-2010 06:21 PM

You need to do this.... I am a newbie at it, but it is very addicting and very fun.

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71T Targa 01-15-2010 06:59 PM

Love mine.

vash 01-15-2010 07:02 PM

ok...somebody explain that to me...is there an order in which they have to hit the target? sick. that second chick was awesome. she would come in handy, ..

i want to try it.

speeder 01-15-2010 07:12 PM

They're just such fantastic guns. I have had a model 23 for close to 20 years, my best friend bought a model 19 about 25 years ago and I was hooked from the first time I ever held it. I guess it was the part of me that likes cool new technology and at the time, I had never seen a composite gun.

They are quite popular in the military and with LE because they just do not fail and they're accurate as hell + really a pleasure to shoot. The Porsche of guns, IMO.

Bill Douglas 01-15-2010 07:15 PM

Nice butt on that first chick.

speeder 01-15-2010 07:16 PM

Old picture but this is what at least one desk drawer should look like: :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263611812.jpg

masraum 01-15-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 5128464)
Old picture but this is what at least one desk drawer should look like: :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263611812.jpg

Except in my case, it's a wall safe, cash, passport, gun -- check, check, check.

jyl 01-15-2010 07:42 PM

I bought my G19 in, can't remember, 1986? 88? Anyway, a long while ago. Great gun.

KarlCarrera 01-15-2010 08:50 PM

Although the Glock and the XD are both very fine examples, I sold the Glock to the SIL, and kept the XD (tactical) 40. Nothing more than a matter of fit in the hand, the XD just fit.

Karl
88 Targa

jyl 01-15-2010 09:56 PM

There is actually an aftermarket thumb safety for the Glock, should anyone want it. Tarnhelm Supply - Gun Safety Add-ons, Smart Guns, Defense Training, Gunsmithing, Expert Witness. I've no personal experience with it.

dd74 01-15-2010 10:59 PM

Funny, I was watching the YouTube vid of the pro shooters while the Gilbert Arenas story played on ESPN.

I kept wondering if Gilbert could shoot his as well as these guys.

speeder 01-15-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 5128725)
Funny, I was watching the YouTube vid of the pro shooters while the Gilbert Arenas story played on ESPN.

I kept wondering if Gilbert could shoot his as well as these guys.

Doubt it. He's not exactly what we would call a real "gun guy". :cool:

Tim Hancock 01-16-2010 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 5128443)
ok...somebody explain that to me...is there an order in which they have to hit the target? sick. that second chick was awesome. she would come in handy, ..

i want to try it.

There are a few different organizations that govern these types of competitions. The only one I have shot thus far is IDPA which usually requires one to fire at the targets in a certain tactical order.

Most scenarios start behind cover with the weapon in the holster. When the start buzzer sounds one must draw and then lean out from cover firing at the first threat that can be seen... then the next... then the next etc. They call it slicing the pie and typically the scenario requires double taps to most cardboard targets and single hits to the steel targets. Often onemust hit a steel popper target which then activates a spinner or swinger target. Many of the scenarios dictte how many rounds may be loaded to start with and when/where magazine changes are to be performed at slide lock (empty mag can be dropped on ground) or with retention (partially full mags must be retained with shooter).

The people who put on these events like to create all sorts of "real world" type scenarios sometimes testing raw speed at close range then other times testing the shooters ability to slow down for longer head shots or shooting at targets with a "hostage/no shoot" partially obstructing the target. The score is basically the total time to complete the scenario, but non-center mass hits on targets result in 1/2 second penalties for each negative point. Time is also added to the shooters score if he/she commits procedural errors (not using cover properly or dropping mags when retention reloads were called for).


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