AR-15 or Mini 14?

[71T Targa]

I should have known this wasn't going to be 600...

How about this:

[MotoSook]

Window Pmags are fine, but not necessary IMO.

The 20 rds mags are nice too. For paper targeting you really don't need 30 rds. But then the 30 rd mags make a nice unipod for bench shooting.

[m21sniper]

The window is nice to have, but not necessary.

[Gogar]

Ok, so since you guys are answering questions (thank you),

If you were going to spend $6-700, would you buy a BB from CMMG, or would you buy a NIB Del-Ton?

[m21sniper]

Either one makes good weapons. I'd just go with whichever cost less.

[MotoSook]

I'd buy the 18" CMMG BB rifle and spend the rest on a BUIS sight and mags + ammo.

The 18" is also chomelined for durability and easy cleaning.

Ok, so since you guys are answering questions (thank you),



If you were going to spend $6-700, would you buy a BB from CMMG, or would you buy a NIB Del-Ton?

[71T Targa]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Ok, so since you guys are answering questions (thank you),

If you were going to spend $6-700, would you buy a BB from CMMG, or would you buy a NIB Del-Ton?

Here is the downer on the Del-Ton that Soukus posted:

FFL Dealer Sales Only
FIREARM PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS

It is Required for you to have a copy of your signed Federal Firearms License, or Collector of Curio & Relics License on file with us BEFORE ordering Firearms from this Website. It is also required to have a copy of any local or state licenses required for a firearm purchase to be on file. All orders placed without, or prior to, an signed copy of the Federal Firearms License (or other necessary licensing) on file will be Deleted without notice. Please call or email us referencing your Zip code and Name as it appears on your FFL, to verify a current copy is on file.

[MotoSook]

I don't think that means you have to be a FFL. You'll need an FFL to receive the rifle no matter what. That's likely what that means. Just line up an FFL first. (chances are an FFL in your area is already on file with AIM.)

Byran, the principle at AIM can address your concerns. Email AIM and he'll reply quickly.

[m21sniper]

You have to get it shipped to a local gun store since you don't have an FFL you cannot take direct shipment.

That's all that means.

Just call a few local gunshops, and ask them how much they want to accept delivery for you. Also keep in mind that you may have to pay for an instant check too at the time of pick up.

[71T Targa]

I have a friend who's an FFL so that isn't an issue. I have my CCP, so the instant check isn't required either.

[MotoSook]

So if you want to order the Delton, have your friend fax a copy or email a copy of his FFL to AIM. Then you order the rifle and indicate which FFL it is to shop to. You can always call AIM. They are friendly and good to work with.

I have a friend who's an FFL so that isn't an issue. I have my CCP, so the instant check isn't required either.

[71T Targa]

Originally Posted by Soukus

I'd buy the 18" CMMG BB rifle and spend the rest on a BUIS sight and mags + ammo.

The 18" is also chomelined for durability and easy cleaning.

Leaning towards this advice...

[MotoSook]

I can't see it mentioned in the CMMG description, but the 18" barrel may also be a midlength gas system which is suppose to be smoother and more reliable than the carbine gas system of the 16" barrel. Most 18" barrels are midlength. Best to call CMMG, but it won't matter that much if it is or not.

[m21sniper]

18" is the barrel length of the US Military SPR SDM rifle.

I personally think 16" carbines are perfectly smooth and reliable.

[71T Targa]

Originally Posted by Soukus

I can't see it mentioned in the CMMG description, but the 18" barrel may also be a midlength gas system which is suppose to be smoother and more reliable than the carbine gas system of the 16" barrel. Most 18" barrels are midlength. Best to call CMMG, but it won't matter that much if it is or not.

Originally Posted by m21sniper

18" is the barrel length of the US Military SPR SDM rifle.

I personally think 16" carbines are perfectly smooth and reliable.

So I should be good to go either way?

[MotoSook]

Yes. An 18" AR for $600 is a great deal.

[m21sniper]

Yeah, either way you're good.

Another pelican just sent me a PM- after reading my 995 post he was interested in picking one up. Turns out they're considered "Assault weapons" in Kali and are illegal.

WTF, over....i thought you could buy AR's and Mini's in Kali. Why would the 995 be illegal. Makes no sense!

[Leland Pate]

Go with the CMMG BB rifle over a Del-Ton. I have both and the CMMG is a bit nicer. You really can't beat the bargain bin rifle.

[71T Targa]

Originally Posted by Soukus

I can't see it mentioned in the CMMG description, but the 18" barrel may also be a midlength gas system which is suppose to be smoother and more reliable than the carbine gas system of the 16" barrel. Most 18" barrels are midlength. Best to call CMMG, but it won't matter that much if it is or not.

The 18" barrel is rifle length FWIW...

[m21sniper]

Actually the full sized M-16 has a 20" barrel. The 18" barrel is the length of the SPR model:


Mk12 Mod 0 SPR

Features:
Semiautomatic only, 8x scope, bipod, detachable suppressor
Caliber:
5.56x45mm NATO
Ammunition Capacity:
20 round box magazine
Rate Of Fire:
12-15rpm (sustained), 45rpm (semi)
Range:
800m (max), 550m (effective)
Muzzle Velocity:
948m/s
Length:
39.63in
Firing Modes:
Semiautomatic (single round per trigger depress)

Ammo Capacity:
20-round Box magazines

Special Features / Attachments:
8x Day Scope
Harris Bipod
Detachable Suppressor

Mission Role / Assignment:
Special Forces Advanced Marksman

http://manual.americasarmy.com/index.php/U.S._Army_Weapons