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Rick V 01-17-2010 05:50 AM
Charity begins at home, since so many in this country are losing the home to be charitable from, I have to side with Sniper in his way of thinking.

Leland Pate 01-17-2010 06:09 AM
God this is interesting...

Keep it up guys!

Crowbob 01-17-2010 09:02 AM
I see the genius from Seattle is back on line. I wonder if he feels inadequate having to blend in with all his Mensa peeps on the NorthLeft Coast? Hello there, Hardrive! Please shower us with more of your superbosity, your immeasurable insight and incalculable knowledge and compassion. Please, please, help us to not hate.

m21sniper 01-17-2010 09:27 AM
Oh, i'm sure i'll get blasted on this thread some more before this one is over...

HardDrive 01-17-2010 09:34 AM
No time to talk, helping my 6 year old with her differential calculus.

HardDrive 01-17-2010 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 5130027)
I don't think Snipe is making a moral judgement. He is making an amoral judgement. He is taking morality completely out of his judgement. I think Snipe is saying nature is by definition amoral, the human condition (including the Hatian situation) is part of nature so this Haitian tragedy is natural and amoral. Being natural and amoral, it cannot be stopped nor prevented by moral intervention. Snipe said he does not have a problem with individuals acting on their own morality by giving aid ($ or otherwise, I think). However, he disagrees, thinking it futile, and thus is angry that the government is forcing it's morality on him by using his tax dollars in a futile effort to thwart nature. Not only does Snipe believe it will unsuccessfully thwart nature, but that it actually exacerbates the misery. He has a point. The difficulty I have is that I believe man can be separated from nature simply because man is moral and has the capacity for compassion. My problem is further complicated by government's apparently haphazard intrusions into morality bordering on fascism. Is this a fair assessment of your position, Snipe?
Quit messing up my theory that you are a moron with clear, insightful, well written analysis.

Well said.

Seahawk 01-17-2010 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5130731)
Oh, i'm sure i'll get blasted on this thread some more before this one is over...
You simply have an opinion I disagree with.

I have had the benefit of seeing the world in all it's horror, from The PI to India through Indonesia to the Middle East.

I'll do my thing, you do yours.

m21sniper 01-17-2010 09:55 AM
I've seen plenty of hellish ghettos myself. Far more than most, that's for sure.

Crowbob 01-17-2010 09:55 AM
LOL Hardrive! And thank you, Sir!

island911 01-17-2010 05:49 PM
Get your compassion here; Cruise ships still find a Haitian berth | World news | The Guardian

:cool:

Chocaholic 01-17-2010 07:18 PM
That's rich!

67nin11 01-18-2010 05:28 AM
thinking vs feeling...........

lets just move all the surviving haitians to detroit, then turn the island into a full time resort....

two birds one stone.

m21sniper 01-18-2010 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5131522)
They probably needed the Cruise ships to move all the hollywood stars to Haiti so they can get some face time on camera "helping."

Superman 01-18-2010 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5129215)
The Haiti thread was one of the most disgusting things I have ever read on this board.

The lack of empathy, greed and pettiness.....sickening. Those that profess the loudest that they are 'proud Americans' showing the ugliest angles of human nature.

Om Mani Padme Hum
I guess I missed that thread. Glad I did. I've read some of the most touching things on the Board, and some of the most disgusting.

m21sniper 01-18-2010 10:38 AM
It's in PARF. There was nothing heartless about the thread, just factual analysis that really bothered some of the bleeding heart types.

speeder 01-18-2010 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 67nin11 (Post 5132047)
thinking vs feeling...........

lets just move all the surviving haitians to detroit, then turn the island into a full time resort....

two birds one stone.
That's actually funny but you might have stumbled onto something there. (Not sure if intentional). Move them to Detroit, take over the island and turn it into a resort w/ different parts being 2/3/4-star and then give all the people jobs at the resort. No more poverty, they're all happy as pigs in schit and one less 3rd world crap hole on earth. I like the way you think! :)

m21sniper 01-18-2010 11:13 AM
Hey i came up with a similar idea 2 days ago in this thread! I want my name in the credits! :D

Dottore 01-18-2010 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5132648)

It's in PARF. Some of us took the view that humanitarian aid for Haiti is a waste of time and that we should just let people die in the rubble rather than trying to find them and help them survive, because, hey, after all this earthquake was just "mother nature culling the herd", and why should we interfere with mother nature? Besides, we got better things to do with our money, like supercharge our 928's and buy some more ammo. F_ck the Haitians, right?

And of course some of the usual bleeding heart *******s on this board don't agree. F_ck them too.
Fixed it for you.

m21sniper 01-18-2010 11:42 AM
You may continue with your obfuscations all you like, it does not change the reality of the situation.

Besides, you said America should stay completely out of world affairs, didn't you?

Maybe i'll skip my next $50,000 turntable or $10,000 watch and send it to the dictator of Haiti. So i can "help."

madmmac 01-18-2010 12:40 PM
If you can give, give what you can.

If you can give and don't, live with yourself.

When you put a dollar sign on a human life, you have indeed devalued yourself.

I have given $500 each to the last 3 disasters to the Red Cross. I'm sure that makes me an idiot to some here.


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