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coldstart 01-22-2010 11:40 AM
Apple customer service sounds great. Especially the kobe beef and happy ending massage treatment from Roxanne....

What is the deal with only having one button on the mouse? How come you can't access the whole screen with an application? How do you right click and open the options bar? It really makes using MS Excel and other applications a pain.

stomachmonkey 01-22-2010 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by coldstart (Post 5140996)
Apple customer service sounds great. Especially the kobe beef and happy ending massage treatment from Roxanne....

What is the deal with only having one button on the mouse? How come you can't access the whole screen with an application? How do you right click and open the options bar? It really makes using MS Excel and other applications a pain.
The mice have been "two button" for a while now. It's all hidden under the shell. With a one button just hold the control key for right click or hook up any non Apple two button mouse.

At the office I use Logitech Media Mice and have all 15 buttons programmed and functional.

On a laptop with a trackpad just put two fingers on the track pad and click. It can tell how many fingers are on it.

You can access the entire screen with an application. It does not do it by default. That's a function of the different approach to the operating systems and personally the entire window filling the screen is something that irks me about Windows.

Windows users are trained to cut/paste. Mac users drag/drop. Meaning you grab something from one document and drag it into another so full screen windows would get in the way of that.

Neilk 01-22-2010 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5140757)
Pull down the prebuilt VM, load it up and everything is there already configured. Saves hours if not days of set up just to test something.
Where can I download one of those pre-built VM? Sounds interesting.

Neil

stomachmonkey 01-22-2010 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 5141026)
Where can I download one of those pre-built VM? Sounds interesting.

Neil
Well if using a Mac (needs to be an Intel chipped box) go here,

VMware Fusion: Run Windows and Chrome OS on Mac for Desktop Virtualization

Download the VM Fusion environment. 30 day free trial. Fully functional.

Install then go here and shop for prebuilt appliances by category,

https://www.vmware.com/appliances/ or here to browse all,

Virtual Appliance Marketplace

motion 01-22-2010 01:15 PM
I have used Parallels for years with XP. I have really never got used to it, and prefer to just have a $500 PC laptop nearby for Windows compatibility testing. Plus, they are adequate for bedtime Netflix streaming :)

dd74 01-22-2010 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5140963)
I may still have a brick or two for one of those floating around. If so I'll send it to you.

Would be good in the garage for accessing reference online while wrenching.

I have a "frankenstein" G4 15' in my garage for that purpose, also to stream tunes from my media center G4 17".
That'd be cool; thanks. Problem is I think it's something internal right where the AC adapter enters the case. I'd find out for sure if I could split the case, but can't seem to get it apart.

dd74 01-22-2010 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nota (Post 5140988)
mac books are twice the price of a intel/MS laptop
for the same spec guts

towers are insanely priced at about 3 times the mass markets MS system prices
and again they use the same guts

parts are way worse for apple only bits like a M/B


the CPU HD DVD memory ect are all the same

best solution is a hackintosh
hacked load of apples OSX on a nonapple laptop or tower

Hackintosh Instructions, Hackintosh How To Guides @ Hackintosh.com

apple fanboys have tooo much invested in mac's
yes apple care is nice BUT IT COSTS $$$$
and runs out in 3 years after purchase
LOL! And coming from a member of a Porsche forum, where a Porsche is twice the price of a VW/Audi for the same spec guts

The Porsche is insanely priced at about 3 times the mass markets car prices
and again they are still just cars

parts are way worse for Porsche only bits like an oil change, tires, alignment, etc. Rubber and air is all the same

best solution is an early 3.6 swap
loads of non-factory engineering where it really doesn't belong.

[]Pelican Parts - Error: Page Not Found 3.6 instructions, How To Not Lose Your Ass@bastardized.com]

Apple critics have tooo much invested in disliking Macs
yes Porsche repair is nice BUT IT COSTS $$$$
You usually run out of money in 3 years after purchase
SmileWavy

stomachmonkey 01-22-2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 5141179)
That'd be cool; thanks. Problem is I think it's something internal right where the AC adapter enters the case. I'd find out for sure if I could split the case, but can't seem to get it apart.
Yeah that was a common problem with that model.

Step by step instructions here.

Apple Powerbook 5300 disassembly and power connector repair

dd74 01-22-2010 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5141549)
Yeah that was a common problem with that model.

Step by step instructions here.

Apple Powerbook 5300 disassembly and power connector repair
Thanks. I'll look it over. Funny, I still have all the peripherals for the machine, including an internal Zip drive. If I can get it working again, that would be the shizzle. :D

enzo1 01-22-2010 10:22 PM
macbook pro; brand new , wife had it in zippered case, asked me to get it out of car, zipper was open, came flying out : at least 2ft above my head .... bam onto concrete floor, oh no! Didn't phase it, made out of aluminum., put dent in side but worked , read that it senses something isn't right pulls head of of the disk, accelerometer. her Iphone started screwing up, called apple at 5:00, we will have one to you tomorrow, it arrived at 12:00 next day.... called apple, your not going to believe this but this one is screwing up too, no problem next 1 arrived by noon... no problems after that, used to buy dell... terrible Ibm terrible acer terrible..

Sapporo Guy 01-23-2010 01:21 AM
Dropped my PowerBook G4 1.25 4 times ... last time included me on some ice. It did hit hard ... it finally decided that it show me it had enough.

Old build quality was actually better.
Previous G4 tower's keyboard had the actual piss taken out of it. Cats pee'd on it like 4 times. Put the keyboard in a bucket with some water and cleaner. Dried it out and still worked when I sold off the machine.

YES, Apple does cost money $$$$ but they keep their used value. Not like other pc's.
I've been trying to get a clean looking non-functional G4 PowerBook (1.0, 1.25) but they go for over $150 on yahoo auction.

So, yeah, the garbage can routine is nice and easy but Apple folks actually get paid to for their trash. :D

Joeaksa 01-23-2010 07:20 AM
Have had Dell treat me the same way but then am a long time customer. Also Garmin is very good with taking care of the customer.

jdlowery 01-24-2010 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HelmetHead (Post 5138933)
Try that with an IPhone....they LAUGH AT YOU!
+1

Been there, tried that, still waiting for action.

jdlowery 01-24-2010 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5138991)
I just did, Tuesday. Antennae on my wifes went flakey. Made an appointment online. Drove to store, talked to the guy for 5 minutes explaining the issue and what I had tried to resolve it. He walked in back, brought me a new phone, asked me to erase the old one, sign the paper, have a nice day.

I've heard of people, although never met one, who have had issues at the retail stores. I've used several different ones in different states and never had anything but 1st class service. I'm sure there are people that have received less than 1st class service. No organization is 100% perfect.

Might help that I register each of my Apple products and one look at my account should be enough to justify giving me what I ask for. Loyalty works both ways.

There's a reason Microsoft is actively trying to poach Apple Store employees for their new stores.

Microsoft poaching Apple store managers and sales staff | The Loop
That is usually the case as long as your iPhone is still under warranty. If it's out of warranty then you're out of luck. It seems that there is something flakey with the iPhone Wifi. Mine also went south, twice. First time I was still under warranty so I got a new iPhone. Second time, 4 months later, the exaxt same problem I was just out of luck.


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