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You're called every name because you are defending a pedophile where there is no rational, reasonable defense.
None. It makes you look VERY bad. You're (again) clinging to total irrelevancies to explain why a FUGITIVE PEDOPHILE was justified. He's not, he's a rapist, he belongs in prison. |
Dottore, if it makes you feel better, I had dinner with Denis, DD74 and Fxeditor in LA two weeks ago and we all agreed that you're someone who knows how to live. We didn't touch on the Polanski issue though.
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too much big words get big rock smash old french man and dottre eat meat sleep |
That is a bit much.
I would not condone cracking Dot in the melon with a brick because of anything he said. I would be interested to know what you could possibly have read to cause you to form such a twisted opinion on the matter Dottore. |
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You have to admit there's a lot of humor when bleeding liberals are involved. ;)
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Especially when there is real blood involved. I mean, when someone, anyone, advocates the rape and buggering of a 13 year old girl, they must be sick along with the person doing the attacking. There simply is no way to see this in a positive light.
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But back to the subject, what I see as corrupt is the fact that you can drug a 13 year old and bone her/him up the ass and "bargain" a 90 day sentence out of it, not the fact that somebody saw the light and said the bargain itself was a travesty of justice. I think several years in prison would be proportionate to the crime he committed. This brings to light a bigger issue. People often avoid serious punishment for having sex with a child because it requires that the child testify, which can be as traumatic as the original attack. We need a system that does not even bring up the question of consent of the child. To protect children the only thing a judge needs to know is "did he/she do it." If the answer is yes - 25 years. No further questions or harassment of the child. It may be that a particular 13 year old is mature enough to give consent, but our biggest concern should be protecting the one's who aren't. |
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Someone who defends or justifies a pedophile is just as bad as the pedo him/herself.
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WTF does the justice system have to do with morality?
Oh and I did not know that despising pedophlia was neanderthal.. |
Looks like we have another child molester fan on the board!
Considering the number of posts he has, might even be Polanski himself! Dot you have a boyfriend now! Hope he is young and not too fast :) Joe A (Who feels that child molestors should be taken out of the courthouse and SHOT in the gut and left to bleed to death) |
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Dammit Byron, now you have brought NAMBLA into the mix.
Am guessing that Dot and -15 are board of directors members of this motley crew and will now threaten us with lawsuits and bondage! Course we are too old for their tastes so should be safe from any buggering, but you never know. |
I guess this will have to be "OJ" justice, where he gets off, but lives in his own personal hell & gets in trouble for something else, also not being able to come back to the states and hollywood lifestyle must be killing him, hopefully....
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Just in...Swiss deny U.S. extradition request...Polanski freed from house arrest. Swiss blame it on failure of U.S. to provide info on 1977 sentencing.o
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Swiss are saying that they only do this if the sentenance is over six months in duration. WTF?
Did not know you could run from the law for 30 years then get away from it like this! |
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The US has a third world judicial system, and the Swiss refusal to extradite Polanski clearly reflects this fact. I had dinner with some senior Swiss lawyers a couple of months ago, who said that the fact that Polanski was even arrested in Switzerland at all was considered a "national tragedy" by almost all members of the Swiss bar. So I suggest you guys need to get over this, like everyone else has long ago. If you want to do something useful, work on reforming your deeply flawed, legal judicial and penal institutions and processes. |
I tend to agree with Dottore. If the "victim" didn't want him extradited, why the dance? But, can he come back now? No.
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It is not up to the victim whether he should be extradited or charged.
It is the State of California vs degenerate pedophile Polanski. Perhaps if we lived in a more enlightened country, we would have stoned the young woman to death for tempting him by falling unconcious after he drugged her. |
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Dottore's objections seem dance around a lot in this case. First, it was no big deal, was consensual and happened a long time ago. Now it's because our legal system is arbitrary and capricious (I agree with him here). The bottom line for me is that Polansky was an adult at the time and exercised piss-poor judgment on numerous occasions wrt hanging out with very young women. It was a pattern of behavior, and one not to be voluntarily corrected. Poor judgment by people who should know better should have consequences. |
I see two options for dealing with this admitted rapist.
The "Dog" can run him down like he did with Andrew Luster http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1278952349.jpg Or better yet, Marsellus Wallace knows how to deal a rapist. Warning harsh language. <object width="500" height="405"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rWOn1dFmFds&hl=en_US&fs=1?color1=0xcc2550& amp;color2=0xe87a9f&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rWOn1dFmFds&hl=en_US&fs=1?color1=0xcc2550& amp;color2=0xe87a9f&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"></embed></object> |
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And I get grief for dating 20yo's....
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You guys have all been on your high horses about some moral outrage that you feel deeply—but really know nothing about—sitting as judge, jury and executioners behind your keyboards. If you applied only half of the righteous indignation that you so freely lavish on Polanski on doing something about corrupt judges and overzealous prosecutors, and a judicial system that is all about theater and artifice rather than justice—you might be doing something useful. That the US prosecutors refused to disclose the evidence of the plea bargain that was made, and for which Polanski did his time, really makes these clowns look even stupider than they are. The Swiss did absolutely the right thing in refusing to extradite. Sorry for the harsh words, but this thread has shown a side of some of you guys that is really rather pathetic. |
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Snipe, you gotta put that pole back in the fire house, then take the pic's
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I do eventually plan to have a pole re-installed in the firehouse. :)
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Dot, the problem is that you defend the indefensible.
He drugged and sodomized a 13 yo child. He sodomized her, rather than rape her the old fashioned way because of concerns about pregnancy, all this according to Polanski. You thinking that it is more important that the judge was not going for the deal, upon which the plea was predicated, is more important than the fact that he drugged and anally raped a child is what normal humans find horrifying. Done with you dot, good day sir. |
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There is also the federal crime of "flight to avoid prosecution." This crime is a matter of statute and is independent of the question of " original complainant's desires". TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 49 > § 1073 Flight to avoid prosecution or giving testimony Whoever moves or travels in interstate or foreign commerce with intent either (1) to avoid prosecution, or custody or confinement after conviction, under the laws of the place from which he flees, for a crime, or an attempt to commit a crime, punishable by death or which is a felony under the laws of the place from which the fugitive flees.............. |
I said "I tend to agree with Dottore" but I failed to elaborate. You are correct Turbo, there has been a federal warrant out for RP since '77 when he fled. I'm not sure what charges would be filed if he were to be arrested here. You may have the statute right there.
The farce that occurred when all the original charges were dropped in a plea bargain except an unlawful sex conviction put RP in a mental institution for 42 days, short of the 90 he was sentenced to. Apparently the courts didn't think too much of the crime at the time to offer that plea and then waffle on sentencing. Since deportation was seemingly going to be part of the sentence, RP deported himself. No one knows how much prison time he would have gotten. Probably not much. Dottore states that our justice system is in need and I said I tend to agree. Apparently the Swiss officials agree as well. I have never condoned what RP did. |
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I won't try and speak for Dot, he is more than capable...but I will say the the black and white in this mess has been smudged beyond the pale: agreements made (and they always are in a high profile case), fees paid to the victim because justice would obviate a payday for the poor young woman (and, in this case, her parents), deals broken over politics and the years trickle past this sad cafe... And I will never lapse into the "talent" excuse for RP...but what should have happened did not, justice was not served. There is no perfect legal system, Swiss or not. Let it go. |
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They don't like to see people punished, they like to give others a pass for incredibly poor and immoral behavior as witnessed in this thead. Why? because if others are buried in depravity it makes their own sick little world not look so bad. Plus if they ever get caught they want a pass too. |
The Swiss authorities ruled on the merits of the case to extradite presented to them, not the specifics of the charges. Don't forget, in the face of great international pressure, they arrested him in the first place. Clearly he committed heinous crimes. It is also clear the LA County DA acted in bad faith.
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You guys should be screaming for the heads of the original prosecutor and judge in this case, in addition to Polanski's. They farked up and let him go after extracting a confession based on a plea deal, abusing their positions that we, the public had trusted them with. It was all about influence, notoriety, and backroom dealing for those guys. Like Dottore says, our criminal justice system is entirely screwed up. This case is a proverbial poster child for the abuses that run rampant in that system. The Swiss merely recognize that a deal was struck, no matter how unsavory, and its terms need to be honored. No "do-overs" for either side once they agree to a deal. The prosecutor and judge failed in their duties to secure justice for the public they serve. They belong in jail as well, along with a whole raft of their contemporaries.
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Interestingly enough, one of the news reports says, "... the law provides automatic deportation for those convicted of crimes of moral turpitude who are sentenced to one year or more in prison." If that is correct, he wouldn't spend more than a year in prison here under any circumstances. |
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