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m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:02 PM

Yes, clearly her double digit grammy wins do not speak to her immense pool of talent.

Seriously dude.....seriously?

Just watch the vids i linked, you'll see why she has 10's of millions of fans.

BTW: You have missed some GREAT Grammy performances over the years with your self-imposed boycott.

Like this one:

This may be the best live singing performance i have ever seen.

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berettafan 02-08-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173664)
Anyone who allows themself to depart this earth without first watching Beyonce' shake her ass to some of her music is an idiot. :)

That is doubly true for Shakira.

You guys should all watch the Destiny's child videos i posted just to watch three extremely healthy black chicks shaking dey moneymakers like there's no tomorrow.

Those chicks can REALLY dance!

Ok, i just watched 45 seconds of the 'survivor' thing you posted.

C A N N E D G E N E R I C C O R P O R A T E S H I T

Mixed with a few cups of thuggish attitude thrown at the camera.

enzo1 02-08-2010 12:10 PM

they should have hired Slash.... simple & to the point YouTube - Slash Playing The National Anthem of USA at the X Games

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 5173738)
Ok, i just watched 45 seconds of the 'survivor' thing you posted.

C A N N E D G E N E R I C C O R P O R A T E S H I T

Mixed with a few cups of thuggish attitude thrown at the camera.

Yes, but the chicks are HOT!!!! They don't even really start dancing until about a minute in. haha, short attention span! :D

PS: I readily admit that I like dance music.

Superman 02-08-2010 12:12 PM

I finally saw The Who at the Gorge Amphitheatre a few years ago, before Entwhistle passed. Amazing band. Being a former bass player and having heard all their music hundreds of times, I was apparently still unprepared for the skill of that man.

Yesterday's performance was pathetic.

herr_oberst 02-08-2010 12:14 PM

Okay, two more suggestions:

• Jane's Addiction

•*Big Head Todd and the Monsters

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:15 PM

Never heard of the second, but does jane's addiction have any song besides, "Jane says"?

I've never heard any other song of theirs, but that one i've heard about 10 gillion times. And i hate it.

Rick Lee 02-08-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173725)
Yes, clearly her double digit grammy wins do not speak to her immense pool of talent.

Seriously dude.....seriously?

Hillary Clinton won a Grammy for her audio version of "It Takes a Village." Rush and Kiss get regularly passed over for the R&R Hall of Fame.

Seriously dude, Grammy's have as much to do with talent as the Nobel Peace Prize does with peace. Sometimes they do get it right, but not much more often than a broken clock being right and for the same reasons.

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:17 PM

Hey, how about Amy Lee/Evanescence? They kick serious ass.

Jim Richards 02-08-2010 12:17 PM

Did Sniper ever have a man card? :p

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 5173752)
Hillary Clinton won a Grammy for her audio version of "It Takes a Village." Rush and Kiss get regularly passed over for the R&R Hall of Fame.

Seriously dude, Grammy's have as much to do with talent as the Nobel Peace Prize does with peace. Sometimes they do get it right, but not much more often than a broken clock being right and for the same reasons.

I am sure you'd acknowledge that someone has 10 grammys, they have them for a reason, right? 1 or 2, ok, maybe you've got a point. But once someone starts winning mountains of grammys, you have to take note.

Beyonce' is a great singer and dancer. You might not like her music, but her talent is undeniable.

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 5173757)
Did Sniper ever have a man card? :p

I traded it for a Miata. ;)

McLovin 02-08-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173751)
Never heard of the second,

Ruh roh, Shaggy.

madmmac 02-08-2010 12:20 PM

Light show and production: A+
Performance: C
Roger Daltrey doing it as well as he did at 65 years old: A
Pete Townshend: Scores a WTF.

Rick Lee 02-08-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173760)
I am sure you'd acknowledge that someone has 10 grammys, they have them for a reason, right? 1 or 2, ok, maybe you've got a point. But once someone starts winning mountains of grammys, you have to take note.

Beyonce' is a great singer and dancer. You might not like her music, but her talent is undeniable.

I never said she's not talented. It's just that her music is not timeless. It will not stand up in 20 yrs. and getting a Grammy because she's popular or sells a ton of CD's or downloads means nothing to me. Watching synchronized dancing is the last thing any music fan cares about. When I see someone dancing with a headset mic on, I think of Beavis and Butt Head taking orders at the Burger World drive-thru. Having a bunch of others, usually gay men, dance with them really doesn't help the already weak, computer-made, drum-machine-laden, written-by-someone-else "music."

GH85Carrera 02-08-2010 12:22 PM

Snipe, part of the difference is the ONLY female singer that got me to buy a CD or album was Janice Joplin. No amount of alcohol can make Janice look good.

I just don't care for Whitney Houston. I don't care if she has a thousand awards from the hand me an award community. I just don't care for female singers for the most part.

Superman 02-08-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173725)
Yes, clearly her double digit grammy wins do not speak to her immense pool of talent.

Seriously dude.....seriously?
>

Someone dissing Houston? Ummmmmm..........

Nearly every singer you hear does a poor job of hitting, holding and backing away from the notes. Not to mention that vibratto thing they do which usually includes losing the pitch of the note. If you want to see a clinic on voice control, watch Whitney Houston's video "I Will Always Love You." Major show-off stuff, if you understand singing.

And quite frankly, I don't ever expect to hear a rendition of The Star-Spangled Banner like the one she did at Super Bowl XXV. Click below. If your cheeks are not wet at the end, then either something is wrong with your ears, or something is wrong with your patiotism.

YouTube - Whitney Houston sings the National Anthem -- Star Spangled Banner

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:24 PM

GH85: I love Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. I suspect it's the closest i'll ever hear to an Angel singing in my ear. ;)

I love female vocalists in general. Amy Lee is probably my current fave.

berettafan 02-08-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173751)
Never heard of the second, but does jane's addiction have any song besides, "Jane says"?

I've never heard any other song of theirs, but that one i've heard about 10 gillion times. And i hate it.



YouTube - Jane's Addiction - Stop (Video)

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 5173776)
I never said she's not talented. It's just that her music is not timeless. It will not stand up in 20 yrs. and getting a Grammy because she's popular or sells a ton of CD's or downloads means nothing to me. Watching synchronized dancing is the last thing any music fan cares about. When I see someone dancing with a headset mic on, I think of Beavis and Butt Head taking orders at the Burger World drive-thru. Having a bunch of others, usually gay men, dance with them really doesn't help the already weak, computer-made, drum-machine-laden, written-by-someone-else "music."

People that like it now will like it then.

Old School Rap, techno, etc, etc, is still very popular in clubs and with people our age.

You're just not one of the people that like it. :)

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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 5173782)
Someone dissing Houston? Ummmmmm..........

Nearly every singer you hear does a poor job of hitting, holding and backing away from the notes. Not to mention that vibratto thing they do which usually includes losing the pitch of the note. If you want to see a clinic on voice control, watch Whitney Houston's video "I Will Always Love You." Major show-off stuff, if you understand singing.

And quite frankly, I don't ever expect to hear a rendition of The Star-Spangled Banner like the one she did at Super Bowl XXV. Click below. If your cheeks are not wet at the end, then either something is wrong with your ears, or something is wrong with your patiotism.

YouTube - Whitney Houston sings the National Anthem -- Star Spangled Banner

I already posted this exact video in praise of Whitney Houston, as well as one of her Grammy performances.

IMO she is tied for the greatest voice of my life time, with Mariah Carey.

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 5173791)

OK, yep...i don't like it.

LOL

Chakka71 02-08-2010 12:36 PM

I vote for KISS next year, in costume with Beyonce dancing!

m21sniper 02-08-2010 12:41 PM

I'd pay a dollar to see that. :D

hardflex 02-08-2010 12:51 PM

Obviously music is a very personal taste. I can't define what I like but I know it when I hear it.

I'd like to raise my glass and toast all the bands and musicians that have brought me joy and happiness in my lifetime, the Who being one of them. My life would not be as rich but for them.

VaSteve 02-08-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by srandallf (Post 5172784)
Current touring members

* Simon Townshend – rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1996–1997, 2002–present)
* Pino Palladino – bass (2002–present)
* Zak Starkey – drums, percussion (1996–present)
* John "Rabbit" Bundrick – keyboards, backing vocals (1979–1981, 1985–present)


I saw that on wikipedia as well. The bassist looked more like Townsend than not. Seeing that Simon was/is a member, maybe he switched to bass for this show?

VaSteve 02-08-2010 02:12 PM

lol, youtube comments:


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Super_Dave_D 02-08-2010 02:31 PM

I understand that next year it's Neil Diamond!

Jim Richards 02-08-2010 02:39 PM

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ruf-porsche 02-08-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5173261)
No grab? She has more awards and platinum albums than most artists dream of!

I really like her and Destiny's child.

But then, i am diversified! :D

What kind of music do you like? I have everything from Elvis to Beethoven to Britney Spears to Drowning Pool to System of a Down to the Rolling Stones to Rage Against the Machine to Johnny Cash in my playlist.

I don't see the Jonas Bros, or Miley Cyrus aka Hannah Montana or Selena Gomez on yyou playlist. LOL That what on my Eyepod because my 7 y.o. like to listen to them.

Looking_for_911 02-08-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 5172435)
WHO the hell even watches a half time show? Seriously...they could put anyone out there...I'm hittin the head and getting a fresh drink and food.


I thought that when we peeeed and refilled all the beer and snacks! :D

m21sniper 02-08-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ruf-porsche (Post 5174143)
I don't see the Jonas Bros, or Miley Cyrus aka Hannah Montana or Selena Gomez on yyou playlist. LOL That what on my Eyepod because my 7 y.o. like to listen to them.

No, no miley cyrus. I think she's hideous. No Jonas, don't think i've ever actually heard one of their songs. Selena Gomez i've never heard of.

aways 02-08-2010 04:38 PM

OK, so Daltrey and Townshend aren't as good as they once were. No surprise at 65, right? I think it's inherently much more fun (and interesting) to have some rock-n-roll icons from the past put on a little show at halftime (if for now other reason than to see what they've still got) than it would be to put some currently popular act on for a 12 min PR stunt. If you want to see some pop-culture bimbo strut her stuff, buy an overpriced concert ticket and get 2 hours worth of it in the company of a bunch of 12 year olds.

(I admit I'd be hard-pressed to apply this analysis to the Stones performance at the SB a couple of years back... Now that was interesting, but granted a bit hard to take. :))

tabs 02-08-2010 04:43 PM

The RS's Superbore performance was sloppy....the WHO has always been a bit slopppy around the edges (Keith Moon speciality)...but the energy of that band has always amazed...listen to the "Live AT Leeds" album short version.....one of the best LIVE ALBUMS EVER>..or "the Kids Are All Right" movie....

I THOUGHT THEY STILL HAD THE JUICE...

ramonesfreak 02-08-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 5173748)
Okay, two more suggestions:

• Jane's Addiction

•*Big Head Todd and the Monsters

been a jane's addiction fan since 1988. one of my alltime faves. saw em in 1990 and last summer at lollapalooza with original lineup and they were great as always. i drove 11 hours to see them. however, they will never be invited to the superbowl and im not sure i would like it if they were

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Heel n Toe 02-08-2010 07:52 PM

Last night's performance by The Who could have been improved by a factor of 10 if Townsend's guitar hadn't been so far down in the mix. It may have sounded better in the stadium, but the TV mix was horrible.

Re: Daltrey and Townsend hitting/holding the notes: both should be professional enough not to go out there unless they can still do it... or get pretty close. They are gonna have to live with that major suckfest of vocals for the rest of their lives. It was shameful. They should have used a voice coach and done all sorts of throat therapy for a month beforehand... anything that would make sure that it didn't happen the way it did.

But if Pete had been higher in the mix, it would've covered some of it up.

Stick ZZTop out there and you've got a party. Is there a list somewhere of bands that have done the halftime show? Has Bob Seeger done it? George Thorogood? They'd both rock it.

Has anyone here ever seen Deborah Coleman or Michael Burks live? I have and they each have what it takes to put on a killer halftime performance. Just Google a few of their vids until you've seen each of them doing a few uptempo Chicago Blues songs. Either artist would absolutely bring the house down and leave people screaming for more.

Hugh R 02-08-2010 08:13 PM

Didn't read all the comments. But I saw The Who in 1973 or so, and they were amazing. I see a bunch of tired old guys now in comparison. Still OK, but a shell of their former self. Listen to an old recording of the Stones (Paint it Black) and Mick was really, really good, now not so much. I agree that they should retire and live on their royalties. But, if they want to continue playing good for them.

nostatic 02-08-2010 08:43 PM

I saw the Shakira/Beyonce song/video. Pure sex. Music? Uhh...there was music playing?!?

System of a Down makes me laugh. Pure comedy music imho. I hope they don't take themselves seriously because they make giggle music. Kind of like CW McCall for the 90's. Living Colour would kick their arse.

I thought the worst part of the show was Townsend's wardrobe malfunction. Good gawd man, test your jacket and make sure your shirt can stay tucked in. That was ugly. I thought Daltrey actually was in good form. As for the mistakes....it's the damn Who. Go rent the Isle of Wight '70 concert. The Who are not a clinical band. Townsend is not a particularly great soloist. But he is a brilliant writer and a showman with the guitar. They came in and did exactly what people wanted them to do - do a medley of their hits (which are among the greatest hits of popular music over the past 50 years) and then leave. Btw, Pino Palladino is a monster bass player.

All things considered, they were less embarrassing than the Stones these days or any other number of geezer acts playing around. I saw a recent video of KISS. That is sad. ZZ Top however can still bring it and they have aged rather well (easier when you have 4' long beards). Clapton also has aged gracefully.

The bands that they should have had were either Green Day or Foo Fighters. They have been around long enough to have a broad recognition factor, they are awesome live, and write very hooky tunes.

Rick Lee 02-08-2010 08:45 PM

Foo Fighters would have been good.

I read a rumor today that Rush might be playing the opening ceremonies for the Vancouver Olympics. They're a geezer band, but play better now than they ever have.

berettafan 02-09-2010 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 5174717)

System of a Down makes me laugh. Pure comedy music imho. I hope they don't take themselves seriously because they make giggle music. Kind of like CW McCall for the 90's. Living Colour would kick their arse.

ok this, to me, is like snipe admitting he has britney speers on his ipod.

living color? talk about soul-less corporate pop ****.....hoy!
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Agree that Green Day would be a phenomenal choice though i personally have gotten a bit tired of that wierd little guy with the black eyeliner.

ZZ Top might be the BEST choice though. And would they let Thorougood do 'One Bourbon One Scotch One Beer'? Can you imagine the crowd singing along with that one! Too cool!!!!

herr_oberst 02-09-2010 03:51 AM

+ 1 on Foo Fighters

m21sniper 02-09-2010 03:58 AM

I'm underwhelmed by all the suggestions on this page.

Daughtry would be very solid, and wow.....Hip too.

berettafan 02-09-2010 04:28 AM

Doesn't he open for the Wiggles?


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