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Watching Arabic TV news - the real news from over there!

Joys of having Dishnetwork TV. Not the watered down NBC/CBS/ABC dribble they call "world news"

I watched with a open mind to Arabic TV tonight. Very interesting, and VERY different than what is reported over our own airwaves.

call this the NPR of the TV arabic stations. not that I agree with any of it, but still, they cover Iran events and Dubai information in a pretty impartial manner and facts and data manner than our biased news in the US. I like to make my own informed educated opinion.

Judge for yourself.

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call this the NPR of the TV arabic stations. not that I agree with any of it, but still, they cover Iran events and Dubai information in a pretty impartial manner and facts and data manner than our biased news in the US.
By biased news in the US I presume you mean the overwhelming anti Israel, pro Islamic radical propaganda that NPR spews?
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By biased news in the US I presume you mean the overwhelming anti Israel, pro Islamic radical propaganda that NPR spews?
Yeah, that and the overwhelming pro-Israel, anti-Islam radical propaganda and lies (yes, I've personally caught them in more than one blatant lie and mis-translation of a foreign dignitary) that Fox news spews.
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Yeah, that and the overwhelming pro-Israel, anti-Islam radical propaganda and lies (yes, I've personally caught them in more than one blatant lie and mis-translation of a foreign dignitary) that Fox news spews.
Excuse me? Your post is just as full of lies my friend.

How about including ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN in the mix of lying news media outlets?

Not that YOU are biased either....
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Personally, I think we ought to get the hell out of Israel's way. Shortly thereafter we wouldn't have a problem in the middle east.
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Personally, I think we ought to get the hell out of Israel's way. Shortly thereafter we wouldn't have a problem in the middle east.
Smart man. Give them the tools that they need and let them deal with it. Totally agree.
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Excuse me? Your post is just as full of lies my friend.

How about including ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN in the mix of lying news media outlets?

Not that YOU are biased either....
I'm sorry, how is my post full of lies? Did I ever mention anything about ABC, CBS, NBC or CNN? No...they're guilty of it too.

20K + posts, still failing at basic reading comprehension.
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You focused on Fox news my friend! It gave you away as a liberal who feels that anything on Fox is not correct, when they tell the real story far more often than the others.

The others are guilty as sin, and have admitted it after the Yobama election. All they wanted to do was influence the election, not report news. They should be shut down after admitting this.

2600 posts and still drinking the kook-aid that turns off thinking to a persons brain! Find out the truth in the future and stop depending on the alphabet organizations for the truth. I have been there, seen whats going on and know who is telling the truth. You?
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This is really eye opening, how Atheists can compare these barbarians to Christians is beyond the pale.
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I watched with a open mind to Arabic TV tonight. ...........

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Mosaic: World News From The Middle East | Link TV
I hope you watched something better than what is in the link. Too many voices overlaid, sounded like a crowed party or something.

The CBC does a pretty good job on international events, often covering the USA better than US stations.

On cable I get an Indian woman with a British accent, might be one of the BBC stations. They show vivid images (war and earthquake victims) which even the CBC would not touch, but the body of coverage is hard to follow at times.
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Personally I like Al Jazeera (from Doha in Qatar) for world news, not just Arabic news. They tend to cover world items that I don't see on other networks. They have offices all round the world and do a lot of crosses to them for up to date coverage. I've watched some really good constructive debates on the Arab-Israeli conflict on there as well. IMHO they do not sensationalise the news and current affairs too much; they report it comprehensively which is what I am looking for.

I do not like our mainstream coverage of world news period. It is superficial and uninformative. I particularly do not like their coverage of the Middle East and its conflicts.

We have SBS on free to air here which is the "ethnic" station for want of a better term. They do a good world news broadcast, but because they have to cover our national news also they prioritise their world news items. I can pick up on our national stuff anytime; I want a dedicated world news service which is why I choose to watch Al Jazeera. Plus I really like their in-depth coverage and approach to Arab news and current affairs. I have my own qualified opines concerning the Arab-Israeli conflict or more precisely the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. I say qualified as my lineage is Christian Lebanese (and I am very proud of it). If my grandfather could live in his village in Lebanon with a Jew as his neighbour on one side and a Muslim as his neighbour on the other and they all got along very well and were welcome in each other's homes; it can be done again. In this ongoing conflict BOTH sides are wrong...both sides have legitimate claims; have committed many atrocities and both sides must find a solution for lasting peace.
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BBC New Hour pretty straight forward and graphic as well as no bias to one side or the other that I have seen. Enjoy watching it.
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I watch the BBC as well as Sky News and some others.

Come on now, Al Jazeera is where Bin Laden releases his new tapes. Anyone thinking this is not biased is being a bit silly.
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I think you're very naive if you think that the news anywhere is unbiased, least of all Arabic news. Just because it's different than what we get here, doesn't mean that it's the unbiased truth.

I used to work in the Aramco building here in Houston.

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Saudi Aramco (Arabic: أرامكو السعودية ) is the state-owned national oil company of Saudi Arabia. It is the largest oil corporation in the world with the largest proven crude oil reserves and production.
The building had a high speed internet connection and a high speed point to point connection to the Aramco compound in Saudi. The one of the reasons was to provide uncensored Internet access to the folks that lived in the compound in SA because the Internet access in SA is heavily censored.

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Granted, farther down in the link above, it says that things have become more relaxed as far as control. I'd be AMAZED if any Muslim country wasn't heavily censored.

Hell, if you went back to the US during the 30s, 40s and 50s (and probably 60s and 70s), folks probably thought the news was good and unbiased, but we all know that's a load of crap. The government was able to exert control over the media and did during wars and such to ensure that the public was more supportive.

I'd say that today, the news is much more "free" than it's ever been. It's also probably not any more biased, but in the past, the bias was hidden more effectively. As the WWE, NASCAR, Reality show mentality dominates more and more, it bleeds into the rest of society more and more, including the news.
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My two cents on bias in American TV news...


MSNBC = too left wing

Fox = too right wing

ABC, CBS, NBC = too superficial


For objectivity, I like PBS News Hour (Jim Lehrer's show). There's a good reason why he has been accepted to moderate eleven presidential candidate debates over the years.

However, the show doesn't have much in the way of fancy graphics or hysterical rants so it may not be for everyone.

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BBC New Hour pretty straight forward and graphic as well as no bias to one side or the other that I have seen. Enjoy watching it.
Ah... Can't let this go by without comment.

The BBC routinely looks the other way vis-a-vis Islamic terrorism and has a well-documented anti-Israel bias. If that's your "cup of tea", you're bound to find the BBC appealing.

Tom Gross on BBC on National Review Online

A preview of the article:

"The BBC: Sheikh Abdur-Rahman al-Sudais, from Saudi Arabia, who opened London's biggest mosque last Friday, is a respected leader who works for "community cohesion" and "building communities."

Not mentioned on the BBC: Some of the views of Sheikh Abdur-Rahman al-Sudais. In his own words: In the name of Allah, the Jews must be "annihilated." They are "the scum of the human race, the rats of the world... the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs."

The BBC's Charter and its Producers Guidelines state: "Due impartiality lies at the heart of the BBC. All programs and services should be open minded, fair and show a respect for truth... [BBC reports should] contain comprehensive, authoritative and impartial coverage of news and current affairs in the United Kingdom and throughout the world...."

The BBC makes many good programs when it comes to drama, comedy, sport, and science. But its enormous news division — by far the world's biggest — is another story. Using lavish public funding (courtesy of the British taxpayer) and an unprecedented worldwide news reach (its radio service alone, broadcasting in 43 languages, attracts over 150 million listeners daily), it is — in blatant breach of its own charter — virtually conducting its own anti-American and anti-Israeli foreign policy. Anyone who doesn't agree with its policies (Tony Blair, for example) finds himself at the mercy of BBC news coverage.

In January, criticisms made of the BBC in a report by an official commission set up by the U.K. government ("the Hutton enquiry") in regard to its Iraq-war coverage, were so scathing that both the chairman of the board of governors of the BBC and its director-general had little choice but to resign. Since then, the BBC has — for a while at least — been a little more adroit at disguising its prejudices. Instead much of its slant now lies in omission rather than in active distortion."

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