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m21sniper 02-11-2010 11:15 AM

Sure, anyone that wants to come crash on my sofa if they for some bizarre reason decided to vacation in Philly...absolutely...

Just give me a little advanced notice. :)

Rick V 02-11-2010 11:18 AM

Can I bring my guns?

m21sniper 02-11-2010 11:19 AM

I would prefer it if you did. I love guns. :)

john70t 02-11-2010 11:28 AM

Really starting over? Sweetened hot sauce. You can eat anything(i.e. Leningrad).

Other than that, a few kind words and synchronicity should be good enough.

scottmandue 02-11-2010 11:40 AM

How about a male escort service? Someone has to "entertain" the rich guys wifes and/or GF's while they are throwing away their money in the casinos.
SmileWavy

RKC 02-11-2010 11:46 AM

Feel I have to give both practical and not so practical advice.....

Practical Advice: Head to Australia - lots of room to live, and, if you want to, room to live cheaply. Lots of good people, good universal health care, decent job prospects. Was most recently there in October, best friend from HS lives there full time. As surely as our frontier is closed, theirs is still open just a bit. Still possibilities there that don't exist in a fully settled country like ours. It is America, only more so....

Need to get by for 4 years until you can take Social Security & Medicare to provide a base, and it's a good place to get a job since it is the only big economy not to take it on the chin in the past few years, and you are exotic in the way an Aussie or Brit is here in the US....

The Bigger Picture Advice: When settled physically, go out somewhere, rest in an empty & silent area, and then spend some long evenings reading philosophy or history or poetry, or novels with a feel like that of the Razor's Edge or Siddartha, and figure out what/where/when you really want.....

I'll bet the next step will be clear before too long....

m21sniper 02-11-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 5180033)
How about a male escort service? Someone has to "entertain" the rich guys wifes and/or GF's while they are throwing away their money in the casinos.
SmileWavy

I have put serious thought into this in the past. I just couldn't get past the fat chicks. I could do ugly chicks with good bodies. But not fat chicks.

I like fat chicks about as much as Little Bill Daggett likes assassins.

AUS would be completely out for me. Too anti-gun. I would need to live somewhere where i could keep my spoons.

Racerbvd 02-11-2010 12:07 PM

I know where a good deal on a bar is, buy that, live & party there:D

Porsche-O-Phile 02-11-2010 12:08 PM

Emigrating to Australia is rather difficult, actually. I checked into it about 5 or 6 years ago. Sure it's easy to visit, but to actually move/live/work there it's pretty tricky, at least that's based on the research I did.

m21sniper 02-11-2010 12:09 PM

And you can't have guns. AUS is a definite non-starter.

RKC 02-11-2010 12:14 PM

To emigrate anywhere takes paperwork. But you are at an advantage in that Australians desire your skills, your education, and your national background. And you can have many types of guns....

Joeaksa 02-11-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TerryBPP (Post 5179341)
I would consider flying rich docs and others in their own cesna's back in forth from wherever. I know there is still a decent market down here for that. Most that I know are low maintenance and easy going. Cake job for $100/hr.

First off Michael has been WAY above the Cessna market for a long time. Flying Gulfstreams and Challengers they hire you by the day, week or month if its short term. Starts at $1500 A DAY for what I fly and assume that his is a bit less than that but not by much.

Doctors can be very easy to work for or absolute a$$wipes. With todays market things are lots more difficult than it was a year ago.

Bill (sniper) when I was referring to him "starting new" it was as a pilot in Alaska, which would be something TOTALLY different from what he has been doing for years. A lot more hands on but a lot of fun.

In the end IMHO he needs to find something fun and something that he likes, and hopefully something that pays pretty well. Starting over as a beach bum might be fun but the pay aint gonna make it, especially for a guy 10 years away from retirement looking to stash some bucks.

Joe

dewolf 02-11-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RKC (Post 5180125)
To emigrate anywhere takes paperwork. But you are at an advantage in that Australians desire your skills, your education, and your national background. And you can have many types of guns....

That's true. And yes you can have guns. Certain types have been outlawed, such as military automatic weapons etc, but you can have handguns, rifles etc. Sure it's a lot of crap to get em, but you can.
The reason I mentioned the RFDS was I know a pilot who flew commercial for thirty years and them went to the RFDS. He loves it. They get priority over all over aircraft, and like he said, "I save peoples lives every week. I also volunteer for Angel Flight and get to help sick people get to their treatment. very rewarding".

FastDave 02-11-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5180070)
I have put serious thought into this in the past. I just couldn't get past the fat chicks. I could do ugly chicks with good bodies. But not fat chicks.

I like fat chicks about as much as Little Bill Daggett likes assassins.

AUS would be completely out for me. Too anti-gun. I would need to live somewhere where i could keep my spoons.

I'm with YOU 100% on this one !!! I tried dating a really sweet, well-off, sincere chick who was FAT !!! I couldn't get past it.

McLovin 02-11-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDave (Post 5180178)
I couldn't get past it.

Couldn't you at least push it to the side?

Rufblackbird 02-11-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 5180182)
Couldn't you at least push it to the side?

or lift it up out of the way? or just turn her around so she's on her knees, and just close your eyes?

I think it would really depend on your meaning of "fat"...

McLovin 02-11-2010 12:48 PM

That's the spirit!

81turboporsche 02-11-2010 12:55 PM

i would search resorts in the caribbean islands see if a position is open for a pilot and start from their, live in paradise for the later years, enjoy a tan, beautiful women and everything else will fall into place

81turboporsche 02-11-2010 12:57 PM

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Superman 02-11-2010 01:21 PM

I've heard the women in Romania are breathtaking.

Still......hard to compete with sugar-white sand and azure-blue water. I wonder how long it would take to get formally kicked out of Tahiti. If you guys can get me there, I can do the research.

FastDave 02-11-2010 01:22 PM

My son was talking about his friend's gf and called her a butter face.
I asked what that meant.
He said she's really hot everywhere but-her face !!!

Burnin' oil 02-11-2010 01:59 PM

Don't you have bearings to pack?

FastDave 02-11-2010 02:01 PM

lol Yeah, that's tomorrow's work. I don't like getting in a hurry on anything to be done outside when there's ice on the ground. I'll get the bearings tomorrow and then wait til Saturday to install them when the temp is up to about 42.
Besides that the fire dept is feeding steak to all volunteers in bout an hour !!! ;)

FastDave 02-11-2010 02:03 PM

and back to the topic of this thread, I'm thinking about going to Florida with my trailer loaded down with tools and finding work there. My brother-in-law's parents have a house I can stay in and exchange repairs and painting for rent. So I hope to have a new zip code soon and really start over too !!!

equality72521 02-11-2010 02:36 PM

I think about this EVERY SINGLE DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!

911boost 02-11-2010 03:25 PM

I know someone who has spent years working in Florida on other peoples yachts. He is an excellent wood worker, and works when there is business. When there isn't, he doesn't stress.

He just recently got a offer and has all his tools packed up and is moving on someone elses dime in HI to work on some yacht there for a year or so....

gassy 02-11-2010 04:04 PM

Fing, I just read your opening comment to my wife and her immediate response was "He should write a book. He sounds smart and eloquent."

Joeaksa 02-11-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 5180286)
I've heard the women in Romania are breathtaking.

Still......hard to compete with sugar-white sand and azure-blue water. I wonder how long it would take to get formally kicked out of Tahiti. If you guys can get me there, I can do the research.

You are correct. Its a real "diamond in the rough" area that most people do not ever visit. Very in-expensive in this area, I have a few friends living in this area and its well worth looking at for many reasons.

Joe A

Jeremy Cottrell 02-11-2010 06:21 PM

I would vote for a move to Germany and become an instructor at the Nurburging.

FastDave 02-11-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSiple (Post 5180458)
I know someone who has spent years working in Florida on other peoples yachts. He is an excellent wood worker, and works when there is business. When there isn't, he doesn't stress.

He just recently got a offer and has all his tools packed up and is moving on someone elses dime in HI to work on some yacht there for a year or so....

Sounds like it's time to buy sunscreen !!! lol

Porsche-O-Phile 02-12-2010 02:57 AM

Your age will be a show-stopper for emigration to a lot of countries. Hate to say it, but they want young people with skills, not older people even with skills. Older people can potentially cost them a lot of money in benefits after retirement and they consider that.

Naturally the U.S. doesn't seem to give a damn when you look at our own immigration standards/policies by comparison. Come on in, if you end up costing us a few hundred thousand bucks for each one of you, hey! It's just taxpayer money. Not like it's real money or anything! We'll just raise taxes! Welcome, go stand in that line!

scottmandue 02-12-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 5180286)
I've heard the women in Romania are breathtaking.

Still......hard to compete with sugar-white sand and azure-blue water. I wonder how long it would take to get formally kicked out of Tahiti. If you guys can get me there, I can do the research.

You will need a assistant/photographer... especially when we go to publish the book...

I will make the sacrifice and volunteer to go along.

Rusty Heap 02-12-2010 11:48 AM

want to escape?

how to start over in foreign lands or relocate........TONS of good info here:

Living Overseas - International Real Estate, Overseas Jobs - Asset Protection - Expatriate Resources - Overseas Retirement

fingpilot 02-12-2010 03:05 PM

I really HAVE been paying attention to the thread.

I HAVE lived in Key West on an earlier sabbatical. Spent a week there once in the motorhome while waiting for the FAA to process the paperwork on a new airline based in Daytona Beach. Had a great weekend (completely solo), sitting, reading and lounging on the beach all day, and having great food in fun conch-style restaurants at night. Kept a low profile, was the reason for the sabbatical. When I showed up in Daytona a week later, tanned, rested and ready to go back to work, everyone (all locals) asked where I 'disappeared' to...? When told them, and that it was the 'friendliest city' I had ever been to, they all went to the floor.

It was only then that they informed me it was also the gayest city in all of Florida.... Oh well, I didn't have any problems of any kind, and while I would certainly go again, it might 'color' how I felt.

The Austrailia idea is a common one as well, but for a pilot, you are required to surrender your pilot's license at customs, and retrieve it when you leave. I guess the pilot's unions there are militant about keeping 'foreigners' out. Probably because we here in the states do the same, so that's out.

Romainia, Hungary, and the rest of the Eastern Block. Yes, all said is true. But have BTDT, and to work/live there 'legally' is a whole another thang. Same goes for most all of Asia, especially Singapore and Thailand. They are rsponding to how the USA treats them when they try the same thing here.

Central America. Some good, some bad, but like most banana republics, you gotta have a grubstake or suffer working 'under the table'.

Bike ride/car drive. Have done a lot of that, and am always amazed at how fast you can go thru cash and credit. A breakdown, or bad weather will strand you in some amazingly small towns. The 'Route 66' option has disappeared pretty much, no one trusts anyone anymore, and rightfully so.

Peace Corps and the like. You'd be surprised where those guys go these days. Places where there are no shots for whats there. Or you can get your shots in country, and go home in a box.

Flying jobs are pretty scarce, even places other then here. I am a year behind the ex-pat rush that most pilots made when the well went dry here.

Teaching. Have considered this. Problem is, most spots are in locales where the cost of living cannot be met by the pay for teaching alone. Sad. The shepherds of future generations (of everything) are the lowest paid on the planet.

Sex jobs. Probably what got me to where I am. I have whored myself out to rich guys with big planes and big watches for a lot of my career. When the going gets tough, you lose the yacht and the jet, and bum rides off of the rich friends that still have their jets.

Government flying. Have done a lot of that, most of which I still cannot talk about. The best jobs are always under Democrats in the White House, but the one that is in there at the moment, does not care about actual intel, or preserving his sources and pathways to respectability, so he has no need to preserve a fleet of 'on demand, immediate action' people. Couple that with a SecState that is always 'chasing the wabbit' rather than implementing a strategy or policy, and what you have is a simple need to use existing MAC flights to move from photo op to photo op. This WILL come home to roost, and probably soon. The people who were there with me over the years are leaving in droves after HO's photo op with the caskets, and his photo-op lobby appearance in Langley where tourists had to be brought in so that it appeared there were employees interested in meeting the prez. Follow that with a double agent murdering 7 long-time career civil servants in cold blood without repercussions of any kind, and those agencies are suffering senior retirements at record rates. People who cannot be replaced by machine politicians from Chicago. So that's out.

My path to some sort of salvation is pretty slim at the moment. Even Joes' driveway and a couch in Philly is looking good! (I don't know how to change the font to green)......

pwd72s 02-12-2010 03:09 PM

Vista?

rick-l 02-12-2010 03:21 PM

I picture this as
  • retired military
  • VA medical
  • vested in a private pension
  • recent non-mortgage property purchase

You're not really starting over like someone that just graduated from high school, you want to do something rewarding and income is not your primary concern.

Joeaksa 02-12-2010 03:22 PM

Will call you later tonight. Am heading out to dinner shortly here in Dallas but back at the hotel in a bit.

vash 02-12-2010 03:26 PM

fing...living in the gayest city in the world has it's benefits. imagine a bunch of sexually frustrated women hanging with a bunch of tan, muscular gay dudes that only want to be friends? enter, fingpilot, hetero extraordinaire! odds go up from there. whatever you do, you will need a steady stream of pusy.

other than that, florida isnt my fav. nice fishing, and hunting tho.

fingpilot 02-12-2010 04:58 PM

Joe, thanks!

vash;

Yeah, I think I remember using that line of thinking way back then, but really didn't/wasn't aware while I was there. It was a non-issue. I have always been very tolerant of other people's lifestyle choices (especially in my business), so it just didn't 'pop up' (pardon the pun).

pwd72s. The 'vista' threw me, but then I thought of the 'where'. Yes, spent some time there.

rick-l. Am not retired military. Private pension went in a corporate bankruptcy years ago, no VA medical, had to drop the private healthcare insurance a year ago after my premium tripled in 2 years for no reason whatsoever. After 55 years of NEVER a claim, NEVER a medical issue, and a 1st class medical every 6 months since 1968. Recent non-mortgage purchase? Does a new prepaid cellphone count?

Rufblackbird 02-13-2010 12:37 AM

you mentioned "niche business" in your original post. what are your hobbies, or things you enjoy doing?


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