North American Hand Made Bicycle Show

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 08:37 AM

I didn't go as this was in Richmond, VA. But nonetheless, for those interested, here are some photos from the show. Gorgeous stuff. If you look hard enough, Pelican's own jtkkz and his Sycip brand of hand-built frames can be seen in a few of the shots.

Hand Made Bicycle show Friday Morning

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Shimano North American Handmade Bicycle Show (NAHBS) - Richmond, Virginia (2010)

MrPerkles · MrPerkles's Garage

cool show,and nice work JTKKZ ,I have over 25 years experience of hand made frames didnt realise they were any enthusiats on here.Steel frames are having a bit of a resurgence in the UK

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPerkles

cool show,and nice work JTKKZ ,I have over 25 years experience of hand made frames didnt realise they were any enthusiats on here.Steel frames are having a bit of a resurgence in the UK

I'm running the table with frames these days. Trying out Steel, Titanium and (of late) Carbon Fiber.

Ti and C/F are nice, but so far they really can't compare to steel.

VincentVega · 03-01-2010, 10:28 AM

Great shots, thanks for posting.

I'd love to have something like a Sycip someday, things of beauty.

MrPerkles · MrPerkles's Garage

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Originally Posted by dd74

I'm running the table with frames these days. Trying out Steel, Titanium and (of late) Carbon Fiber.

Ti and C/F are nice, but so far they really can't compare to steel.

I was given a Merlin for a year to race on it was the best frame I ever used,apart from the ones I built of course

.Europe has been blitzed with cheap chinese ally frames for the last 10 years and really ruined the bespoke builders businesses

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

I love steel, but would take my Moots over anything else.

Laneco · 03-01-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPerkles

cool show,and nice work JTKKZ ,I have over 25 years experience of hand made frames didnt realise they were any enthusiats on here.Steel frames are having a bit of a resurgence in the UK

Good equipment is good equipment, whether it is a bicycle or a fine german car. Sports cars and road bikes seem to draw the same pool of people.

angela

look 171 · 03-01-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74

I'm running the table with frames these days. Trying out Steel, Titanium and (of late) Carbon Fiber.

Ti and C/F are nice, but so far they really can't compare to steel.

Why do you think that? Why do you think they (many, many) fit carbon forks on their steel frames?

thanks for the tip on Bicycle John's. the Look frame is too big for me also. As it turned out, I know who the owner is from the old days. We both know some of the riders from way back. He's got a lot of nice stuff and not a lot of crappy mass produced junk like other shops. Look like a Ridley or BMC for me. Can't decide.

BGCarrera32 · 03-01-2010, 01:00 PM

Wow I had no idea Paul Wyganowski was still doing frames...

mikeferg75 · mikeferg75's Garage

My old racing buddy, and friend is creating some works of art in MI

QUIRINGCYCLES.NET

MrPerkles · MrPerkles's Garage

brooks saddles and ta cranks havent seen those for a while.
Many fit carbon forks because they are cheap to buy,steel forks when building a frame set are arguably the hardest part to get right

BGCarrera32 · 03-01-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74

I'm running the table with frames these days. Trying out Steel, Titanium and (of late) Carbon Fiber.

Ti and C/F are nice, but so far they really can't compare to steel.

You are correct. Best setup I ever rode was 6/4 Ti with a carbon fork; beat steel in every way.

More comfortable in the seat stays, stiffer fork when you got on it- yet compliant over the road vibrations. Stiff bottom end of the frame and rigid in the main triangle.

MrPerkles · MrPerkles's Garage

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Originally Posted by mikeferg75

My old racing buddy, and friend is creating some works of art in MI

QUIRINGCYCLES.NET

wow those are nice

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171

Why do you think that? Why do you think they (many, many) fit carbon forks on their steel frames?

I think many fit carbon forks on their steel frames because they are 1) weight conscious, when in all actuality, the main weight savings is almost always in the wheels - carbon forks = maybe .25 lb and are expensive; and 2) if concerned with flex, don't know that they can have steel forks built that can be as rigid as c/f. I have a Curt Goodrich custom-built steel fork on one of my frames that substituted a Time fork. The Goodrich is extremely stiff on sprints, but when you back off, like butter. As to the bike -- an '87 SL Columbus 53cm with DT shifting -- it weighs 19lbs and loves the Rose Bowl.

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Originally Posted by look 171

thanks for the tip on Bicycle John's. the Look frame is too big for me also. As it turned out, I know who the owner is from the old days. We both know some of the riders from way back. He's got a lot of nice stuff and not a lot of crappy mass produced junk like other shops. Look like a Ridley or BMC for me. Can't decide.

I just bought a Ridley. It's in the shop now -- you might have seen it. We did the fitting Saturday; needs more compact bars. I've put about 30 mi. on it; very fast, very comfortable -- destroys all carbon myths about harshness.

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeferg75

My old racing buddy, and friend is creating some works of art in MI

QUIRINGCYCLES.NET

Quiring makes awesome frames. They're on my short list if I ever want Ti again.

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPerkles

brooks saddles and ta cranks havent seen those for a while.
Many fit carbon forks because they are cheap to buy,steel forks when building a frame set are arguably the hardest part to get right

But the best part, IMO. Brooks saddles are the second best.

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BGCarrera32

You are correct. Best setup I ever rode was 6/4 Ti with a carbon fork; beat steel in every way.

More comfortable in the seat stays, stiffer fork when you got on it- yet compliant over the road vibrations. Stiff bottom end of the frame and rigid in the main triangle.

Sometimes -- no, often times, it's too close for me to call. Like I said, each material feels good. Each serve their purpose very well.

Naked Ti has a great industrial look to it...

Laneco · 03-01-2010, 04:04 PM

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But the best part, IMO. Brooks saddles are the second best.

No way - Brooks saddles are designed by the Marquis de Sade... I can put any specialized body geometry or terry fly on a bike and do a 24 hour race. Wouldn't ride across a parking lot on a brooks. The only worse saddle I've ever ridden was a carbon saddle. No cover, no pad, just carbon. That was actually worse but only a little.

angela

jim72911t · 03-01-2010, 08:58 PM

We were there , too! I couldn't figure out how to save the picture of our booth from the Flicker photostream, but I do the manufacturing engineering for the parts like above.

dd74 · 03-01-2010, 09:22 PM

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We were there , too! I couldn't figure out how to save the picture of our booth from the Flicker photostream, but I do the manufacturing engineering for the parts like above.

Nice. If that's stiffer than Dura Ace, I'd like to check it out. Do you have a website?