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vash 03-06-2010 10:53 PM

i like my wife's cats. they are both cool. but deep deep down inside, i am scared of them. all their tools are so effen sharp. i break out in a sweat when i need to catch one..i would sedate one if needed.

RANDY P 03-06-2010 11:06 PM

sheesh! Easy fix you need this.
 
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(ps just kidding don't freak out I have had cats before)

Scuba Steve 03-06-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GWN7 (Post 5221941)
Welding gloves

I agree completely. Never met a cat that could get through them.

PorscheGAL 03-07-2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 5221939)
If you were actually bitten by your cat, you should go to the doc and (maybe) get treated with antibiotics. At least get it looked at especially if it broke the skin. My cat (dead now) bit (up on the hand near the wrist) me several years ago, and what a nightmare it was. Went to Kaiser (evening clinic) and they said they weren't treating that kind of thing because it was late and there were no doctors. They gave me an appointment after work the next day. I wore a long sleeved dress shirt the next day and in the afternoon pulled my cuff up to see a red line running up my arm. So I went to the clinic immediately, and they put me on an IV of antibiotics. Then they sent me home with some antibiotics to take for a week or so. After I finished them, the area started getting red & feverish again. Went back to another doc, and he told me the previous doc had prescribed the wrong antibiotic. Anyway after another week or more, the infection was finally gone. The second doc said cat bites were really dangerous.

For my 9yr old's science project we decided to grow bacteria in petri dishes. We swabbed the Cat's mouth, the dog's mouth and my son's. The stuff currently growing in the cat petri dish is by far the nastiest and most diverse. One type bacteria growing in the dog's, 2 in the son's, 6 in the cat's.

As for a sedative, call the vet. They probably can give you something. I would not use anything the groomer suggests without vet approval.

svandamme 03-07-2010 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mikester (Post 5221926)
I always put my cats in their carriers head first. I'd hold their legs back against their bodies and dive them straight in.

Never had a problem with getting them in. Just catching them to do so. I stand the carrier on it's end and dive them in holding their legs against their sides head first.



same here, i tend to put the carrier thing so the entrance is facing upwards and shove em in face first... gravity does the rest.

tail first, no deal with mine.. they'll just claw their way out, using me for grip..

Drdogface 03-07-2010 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5221707)
Mom declawed a cat on the kitchen table once, gave the critter ketamine(aka PCP). Of course, she is an anesthesiologist, I would tell you to call a vet about that stuff, unless you have an aneshtesiologist in the house.

Sorry Tobra, but that story makes me cringe. The use of Ketamine (NOT PCP) is OK at home...I've done it many times...but doing a surgery like that ? Just where did she learn that ? She is/was an anesthesiologist for God's sake, not a trained surgeon. I would think she'd have more ethics....and sense. Sorry for the rant...

svandamme 03-07-2010 06:58 AM

i don't care who does it or where, or if they are trained to perform it...
if you can't deal with the fact that a cat has claws... then don't get a cat.

it's not like we go ahead and have the hands of 3-5 year old kids amputated, because they touch everything when they are not allowed to?
You know if you gonna get kids, they are going to go around touching things, opening things, breaking things,
and as such you keep that in mind when you have em around the house... you monitor, and you raise em not to do the things they shouldn't


Same with a cat, if you can't accept that... get a friggin gold fish.

creaturecat 03-07-2010 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 5222194)
Sorry Tobra, but that story makes me cringe. The use of Ketamine (NOT PCP) is OK at home...I've done it many times...but doing a surgery like that ? Just where did she learn that ? She is/was an anesthesiologist for God's sake, not a trained surgeon. I would think she'd have more ethics....and sense. Sorry for the rant...

+1, yikes!

Tobra 03-07-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 5222194)
Sorry Tobra, but that story makes me cringe. The use of Ketamine (NOT PCP) is OK at home...I've done it many times...but doing a surgery like that ? Just where did she learn that ? She is/was an anesthesiologist for God's sake, not a trained surgeon. I would think she'd have more ethics....and sense. Sorry for the rant...

Ketamine, my bad, not the same as pcp, just the same class, is a dissociative anesthetic that is commonly used in veterinary medicine. She did the anesthesia, the actual procedure was done by a friend of hers who had formerly been a vet, retired at the time as I understand it. I suppose she was not technically licensed to do anesthesia on a cat. She arrived at dose by weight as I recall, but this was about 40 years ago, so my memory may not be accurate.

steveo123456 03-07-2010 01:33 PM

Our Himalayan gets Diazepam (RX from the vet) every time she has to leave the house. She's the sweetest lap cat you've ever seen at home but she turns into a devil cat if she has to travel anywhere.

Joeaksa 03-07-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5221572)
I avoid sedation but a tip on the cat carrier thing, shove em in tail first. If you try head first you're in for a fight.

Thick welding gloves work VERY well for this.

That said, I open the kitty cat and the cat walks over, sniffs it a couple of times then walks in, sits down and waits... Its simply unreal!

Por_sha911 03-07-2010 01:39 PM

1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth, pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow.

2. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process.

3. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away.

4. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm, holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten.

5. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden.

6. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously.

7. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.

8. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.

9. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink 1 beer to take taste away. Apply Band-Aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.

10. Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Open another beer Place cat in cupboard, and close door onto neck, to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band.

11. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Drink beer.. Fetch bottle of scotch. Pour shot, drink. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Apply whiskey compress to cheek to disinfect. Toss back another shot. Throw Tee shirt away and fetch
new one from bedroom.

12. Call fire department to retrieve the damn cat from across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap.

13. Tie the little %&**#t front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy-duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of filet steak. Be rough about it. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down.

14. Consume remainder of scotch. Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table.

15. Arrange for ASPCA to collect mutant cat from hell and call local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.

Drdogface 03-07-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5222444)
Ketamine, my bad, not the same as pcp, just the same class, is a dissociative anesthetic that is commonly used in veterinary medicine. She did the anesthesia, the actual procedure was done by a friend of hers who had formerly been a vet, retired at the time as I understand it. I suppose she was not technically licensed to do anesthesia on a cat. She arrived at dose by weight as I recall, but this was about 40 years ago, so my memory may not be accurate.

Thanks for the further explanation....that sounds much more reasonable. She likely would do OK with the Ketamine dose. The LD-50 on that stuff is very high. I'm glad she didn't attempt the surgery and it did sound strange that she would have. That's still not the kind of surgery you want to do at home....I never would, but did 'cut' a lot of tomcats on tables in homes.

Geronimo '74 03-08-2010 12:10 AM

No hair, no stress!

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Joeaksa 03-08-2010 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 5223476)
No hair, no stress!

Also frigging ugly!

Would have a "pet rock" before having one of those!

Rikao4 03-08-2010 09:33 AM

watch those cuts..
most likely will get infected..
my Merlin cut me more than I care to recall..
20 lbs longhair Persian..awesome cat..
wrap in towell...then toss in the carrier..

Rika


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