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legion 03-11-2010 06:18 PM

You guys are right, some of the early Sid Barrett stuff had singles, but they did refuse to release them at some point before Dark Side.

ramonesfreak 03-11-2010 06:20 PM

in all my vinyl hunting, ive never seen any of these post 1970 singles...

ramonesfreak 03-11-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 5231594)
You guys are right, some of the early Sid Barrett stuff had singles, but they did refuse to release them at some point before Dark Side.

No...i guess i was wrong..look at post above yours..clearly they issued them...were these for radio-only or also retail though...???

targa911S 03-11-2010 06:22 PM

I worked for a record company in those days. Some "singles" were for radio only.

ramonesfreak 03-11-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5231588)
yer a smart guy for a bass player :-)

u talking to me? im a guitar player ;)

nostatic 03-11-2010 06:40 PM

There are tracks that are only available with a full album purchase on iTunes, so some bands evidently have negotiated different deals.

As for the artist having say over things, well...it depends. While plenty of artists have been not fairly compensated by labels, it also is a little unfair for an artist to take money for recording, have the label do the distribution, marketing, etc, and then say, "hey you can't do that with *my* material." Well, at what point does the label have a say? It's kinda like a sculptor selling a piece of work and then dictating what the new owner can do with it. Do they maintain artistic control after they have sold something?


Of course if an artist self-distributes, then it becomes a moot point.

ramonesfreak 03-11-2010 06:50 PM

it all depends on how well the attorney negotiated the contract...and it depends on how open minded the label is. Atlantic records was very open to Led Zeps insistence that no singles be released...and learned that Led Zep was very smart for doing that..

but now? I doubt new bands get that kind of control in the deal

targa911S 03-11-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by srandallf (Post 5231632)
u talking to me? im a guitar player ;)

That makes you exceptionally smart then. :0

Tobra 03-11-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 5231511)
This has ALWAYS been Pink Floyd's stance. They refused to release singles in the 60's, 70's, and 80's because they have felt that their works should only be released as complete albums.

This has never changed.

It is in their contract, that is how important it is to them.

Led Zeppelin did release a single. Hey, Hey What Can I Do. Can't remember what the B side is, I do have the 45 still. So would that be rare?

BTW, drummers are the ones that are the real flakes, not bass players.

herr_oberst 03-12-2010 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5232042)
BTW, drummers are the ones that are the real flakes, not bass players.

Not Nick Mason - he's a certified car freak. The worst kind, the one with almost unlimited cash!

targa911S 03-12-2010 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 5232042)

BTW, drummers are the ones that are the real flakes, not bass players.

Thanks! (bassist)

legion 03-12-2010 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 5232177)
Not Nick Mason - he's a certified car freak. The worst kind, the one with almost unlimited cash!

He's also turned his car obsession into a business. He rents his cars to movies and television shows that shoot in England. He owns everything from Ford Cortinas to Ferrari Enzos. He is quite literally the English Jay Leno, in that he seems to appreciate everything from well-designed pedestrian cars to super-exotics.

When Top Gear wanted to test out the Enzo a few years ago and Ferrari refused to give them one to test (because they'd made some negative comments about a past model--what car do they not make some negative comments about?), Nick Mason stepped in and loaned them his. They made a BIG DEAL out of the fact the car came from him and not Ferrari.

And yes, the drummers are usually the crazy ones. Keith Moon and John Bonham come to mind. But Nick Mason is more like Ringo Starr: quiet, reserved, sane, and still alive.

nosmo_king 03-12-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 5231344)

By the way- which one's Pink?

porsche4life 03-12-2010 11:47 AM

Guys I don't have time to do the digging at the moment.... but look up Trent Reznor's discussions about downloading and where the industry is headed...


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