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I've used pepper spray several times on people. It works great. (Some are supposedly immune).
Everyone i've ever sprayed with it has lost their will to fight immediately. |
UDAP Bear Deterrent Pepper Spray
Bear spray works great for dogs I have seen it used a couple times on aggressive dogs on trails in the area. The older lady hikers won't bat an eye hosing down an aggressive dog out hiking. |
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I like the stream foam sprays the best. Preferably the ones that are mixed with CS/CN/OC. That way if they're immune to one of the chem compounds, you still have two other agents at work to incapacitate them. Never spray pepper spray up wind unless absolutely necessary. |
IF i had an ASP, i would have it on the bookcase by my front door. first line of defense if a "j-witness" decides to get fresh with me. i have tapped my leg gently with one...ouch. it hurts.
i would never have on in my car. |
You ca use wasp and hornet spray as well. It has an effective spray range of 15 to 20 feet.
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i have been maced 3x in my life. once by my sis's homemade version. dropped me on my butt. i was 10. then twice again, by my sister. once with my dad's policeman (was it?) mace, and the final time with some stuff for dogs. mailman version. i hit the deck, blubbering all three times. that cop stuff, came from a cylinder that spray axially. my mom drove me to the hospital screaming. i kicked and scratched the doc, while they tried to pry my eyes open. people wonder why i keep arms distance from sis, mentally and physically. |
I always carry a squirt gun with ammonia cleaner in it. Works quite well and no permanent harm to the dog.
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maybe-so, are you kidding me? i can just see you in yir bike shorts riding down the road, dog takes chase. you fumble around trying to get the baton out and extended as dog draws you in. you try to swing at said dog and it all goes bad from there. perched atop a bike is not a spot to be swinging a club from
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they already make them for cyclist...they are called frame pumps
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268435951.jpg and the old classic silca with a steel head...carried one of these on my road bike for years. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268436103.jpg otherwise you can carry a can of "HALT" but i have never needed more than one swing with a pump toward the offender. |
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Bike pump- Good concept, but no weight. No inertia. "Bad dog" will be followed closely by - "Hello, Doctor".
Another angle to use is carb cleaner. Will drop anyone/anything on their a$$, right now. Also very legal :) Just a thought - not as much for on the bike, but in questionable areas in the car. |
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I agree, spray is the best thing for you.
re extendable batons - if you put a small ball head on it, then it becomes a monopod for your camera... |
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Some of the gangbangers in LA reportedly carry old fashioned metal bicycle peddles as a substitute for brass knuckles, not illegal apparently. Same reason they carry long bladed screwdrivers.
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I guess there is also the old school metal D-cell Maglite option too. On occasion I also see people walking around with (single) golf clubs and I don't think they are doing any golfing.
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If you're going baton, an ASP with a diamond tip is definitely the way to go.
I had one of those for several years, but lost it somewhere a few years ago. I suspect i returned it to a dealer in a repo. Whoops. Anyway- ASP batons seriously kick ass. I've always used a 4 or 5 cell D maglite for repoing. Highly visible/intimidating and extremely useful as both a weapon and a light. |
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