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rfuerst911sc 03-13-2010 03:49 AM

F1 qualifying ( spolier alert )
 
Vettel........Massa........Alonso with Schumi 7th. Interesting year this will be.

Jim Richards 03-13-2010 04:53 AM

Backmarkers are as much as 9 seconds adrift of Vettel's qualy time. What a mess this is going to be.

Mericet 03-13-2010 05:20 AM

Todt is already talking about the 107% rule for next year.

herr_oberst 03-13-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mericet (Post 5234197)
Todt is already talking about the 107% rule for next year.

He'd better be doing something.

Man, what is with the new official F1 timing graphics? How about letting the fans, ie viewers know what's happening? I had no idea who was getting bumped in Q2, which is by far the most important session this season. That needs fixing STAT!

But, on a positive note, it's F1 again. Yay!

Fun positive note! Good to see the Lotus colors again, and the team at least kind of knows what it's doing.

sammyg2 03-13-2010 08:34 AM

red cow has proved they can run fast when light, let's see how they run with a full load of fuel.
Ferrari has been testing with heavy fuel loads the entire pre-season.
I predict one of the ferraris will be in the lead by lap 10.

BRPORSCHE 03-13-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mericet (Post 5234197)
Todt is already talking about the 107% rule for next year.

Please enlighten me.:confused:

sammyg2 03-13-2010 09:03 AM

In Formula One, the 107% rule was a Sporting Regulation that affected qualifying sessions from the beginning of the 1996 season until the end of the 2002 season.
It stipulated that a driver who did not lap within 107% of the pole position time during the hour-long session the day before the race would not be eligible to compete in the race, subject to the discretion of the stewards.

BRPORSCHE 03-13-2010 09:11 AM

Thanks sammy. Know can you save me from doing the math? I am guessing most likely HRT and the rest would be greater than 107%?

tchanson 03-13-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mericet (Post 5234197)
Todt is already talking about the 107% rule for next year.

Next year will be too late. Having cars on the course almost 10 seconds off the pace is really a safety issue.

The backmarkers are going to need to step up their game and quickly.





Tim

emcon5 03-13-2010 09:16 AM

Looks like 107% of Vettel's pole would be about 2:02, which covers the whole field except the last 2 positions, one of which didn't turn a lap prior to qualifying.

Mericet 03-13-2010 10:07 AM

Too late for the 107% rule this year as all the teams will have to agree to the change. It was controversial the first time around but I can not remember a lot of people affected by it back then. I would not worry about it until it happens next year. I am sure Todt just wants to make the back markers step up their game.

Schumi 03-13-2010 11:29 AM

Michael quals 7th... ironically the same position he qualified in in his first ever F1 race at Spa.

lisa_spyder 03-13-2010 01:38 PM

I was half asleep watching this last night....have to say the commentary wasn't helping (no-one had taken their personality pills and the guys seemed kinda 'lack-lustre')....

So I missed the 'thing' about the tyres - I could go read up on it but too lazy (it's Sunday morning here ;))...what's the deal? Those who didn't make the cut for Q3 get a choice of tyres to start on yet those who made Q3 must start on the tyres they posted fastest time on? Is that right?

I think this track exacerbates the times problem. It's looooonnnnng. I wasn't all that surprised to see such a time differential across the field seeing as it's the first race of the season. I agree they should reconsider the 107% rule though.

Very happy to see Vettel get pole and even though I am not a Ferrari fan also very happy to see Massa take second spot. Here's hoping for a good race....

Roll on Melbourne! Two weeks to go - yey! And before that we have the Phillip Island Historics next weekend which is going to be a sensational meet (as usual)....lots of motorsport spectating for us over the next couple of weeks.

Turbo_pro 03-13-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 5234469)
red cow has proved they can run fast when light, let's see how they run with a full load of fuel.
Ferrari has been testing with heavy fuel loads the entire pre-season.
I predict one of the ferraris will be in the lead by lap 10.

Vettels future is now and Adrian Newey is the aero god. The race will be won by the driver that manages his tyres the best and aero saves tyres.

As for the Ferraris, All I care about is that Massa puts Fred (Cry Baby) Alonzo in his place.

javadog 03-13-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisa_spyder (Post 5234882)
Those who didn't make the cut for Q3 get a choice of tyres to start on yet those who made Q3 must start on the tyres they posted fastest time on? Is that right?

Yes, that's correct.

JR

motion 03-13-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_pro (Post 5234920)
As for the Ferraris, All I care about is that Massa puts Fred (Cry Baby) Alonzo in his place.

+1 to that.

tchanson 03-13-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Schumi (Post 5234730)
Michael quals 7th... ironically the same position he qualified in in his first ever F1 race at Spa.


...and he's only the third fastest German in this qualifying.

Vettel would have easily have won the title last year but for the car/engine letting him down on numerous occasions.

Moving chicane newcomers notwithstanding, this has to be one of the most competitive grids, top to bottom, in many years.

This should be a great season.







Tim

svandamme 03-13-2010 03:13 PM

gotta give Schumacher credit...3 years retirement, half the competition is half his age... yet he qualified 6th out of 23

not sure why y'all think he qualified 7th... the list i'm looking at , at f1today.com says 6th
And make that 2nd fastest German

Bahrain Grand Prix 2010
Qualifying
Driver Teams Time
1 F Massa (BRA) Ferrari 1'54.242
2 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1'54.608
3 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 1'55.217 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1'55.241
5 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 1'55.284
6 M Schumacher (GER) Mercedes 1'55.524
7 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1'55.672
8 R Kubica (POL) Renault 1'55.885
9 A Sutil (GER) Force India 1'56.309
10 RG Barrichello (BRA) Williams 1'55.330
11 V Liuzzi (ITA) Force India 1'55.653
12 N Hulkenberg (GER) Williams 1'55.857
13 PM de la Rosa (ESP) BMW Sauber 1'56.237
14 S Buemi (SUI) Toro Rosso 1'56.265
15 K Kobayashi (JPN) BMW Sauber 1'56.270
16 V Petrov (RUS) Renault 1'56.619
17 J Alguersuari (ESP) Toro Rosso 1'57.071
18 T Glock (GER) Virgin 1'59.728
19 J Trulli (ITA) Lotus 1'59.852
20 H Kovalainen (FIN) Lotus 2'00.313
21 L di Grassi (BRA) Virgin 2'00.587
22 B Senna (BRA) HRT F1 2'03.240
23 K Chandhok (IND) HRT F1 2'04.904




EDIT, nevermind, F1today got a bad list... they forgot Vettel completely...7th is still not bad for a first race qualifying, for the old timer who took 3 years sabatical..

imcarthur 03-13-2010 03:24 PM

Your list is missing Vettel. This is from the F1 site.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268526228.jpg

It should be a great race.

Ian

FastCarFan 03-13-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_pro (Post 5234920)
As for the Ferraris, All I care about is that Massa puts Fred (Cry Baby) Alonzo in his place.

Not disagreeing about Alonso, but I bet he finishes the race ahead of Massa.


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