yet another reason i'll never shop at Walmart

[nostatic]

FOXNews.com - Wal-Mart 'Sympathetic' to Man Fired for Using Medical Pot, but Won't Rehire Him

(posted a Fox link so some here wouldn't immediately complain about "liberal media bias" )

[equality72521]

While I share the sympathy, what happens when someone using medical pot has an accident in the workplace harming himself and possibly others? Do you think the company will have even a slight chance in a court of law when they get sued? You don't think Walmart is the only company that will do this do you?

[porsche4life]

I guarantee you my dad would *****can someone if he found out they were on pot even for medical purposes and he is a very small business and a very lenient person. but when we are working our lives and the lives of others are on the line....

[t-tom]

Originally Posted by nostatic

FOXNews.com - Wal-Mart 'Sympathetic' to Man Fired for Using Medical Pot, but Won't Rehire Him

(posted a Fox link so some here wouldn't immediately complain about "liberal media bias" )

The liability of having someone on your staff that is openly using drugs is insane!

[austin552]

True, he might price something wrong

[m21sniper]

YEP! FIRE ALL PEOPLE THAT DRINK, USE TOBACCO, OR USE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS!!!!

Seriously, some of you guys don't put a lot of thought into your responses.

[sammyg2]

If it were called Sam-mart instead of wal-mart I can guaranty this person would not be working for me.
He might be on permanent disability instead of getting fired, but he would not be working there.

I am also of the opinion that this medicinal pot stuff is a bunch of crap.
I'd bet that for every one person who has a legitimate medical justification, 1000 are pretending to just so they can legally turn their brains into mush.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by equality72521

While I share the sympathy, what happens when someone using medical pot has an accident in the workplace harming himself and possibly others? Do you think the company will have even a slight chance in a court of law when they get sued? You don't think Walmart is the only company that will do this do you?

Would you say the same thing about prescription pain killers or muscle relaxants? How many people in this country go to work taking those?

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Casias, who was the store's 2008 associate of the year, said he legally used marijuana to reduce pain associated with his disease and was never under the influence while at work.

"I gave them everything," Casias told Wzzm13.com. "110 percent every day. Anything they asked me to do, I did. More than they asked me to do. Twelve to 14 hours a day."

Casias, who has been collecting unemployment since his termination, reportedly received a notification this week that Wal-Mart was challenging his eligibility for benefits. Wal-Mart officials have since reconsidered that action, company spokesman Greg Rossiter told FoxNews.com."

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[austin552]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

If it were called Sam-mart instead of wal-mart I can guaranty this person would not be working for me.
He might be on permanent disability instead of getting fired, but he would not be working there.

I am also of the opinion that this medicinal pot stuff is a bunch of crap.
I'd bet that for every one person who has a legitimate medical justification, 1000 are pretending to just so they can legally turn their brains into mush.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

YEP! FIRE ALL PEOPLE THAT DRINK, USE TOBACCO, OR USE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS!!!!

Seriously, some of you guys don't put a lot of thought into your responses.

No, just fire all the people who smoke pot or put them on permanent disability. And there is quite a bit of thought behind that statement.

If someone drinks alcohol on the job they will fail a Breathalyzer test. If they drink on their own time and are sober when they show up, they pass a breathalyzer test.
If someone smokes pot OFF the job, it will show up in their system. If someone smokes pot on the job, it will show up in their system.
So how do you differentiate between them getting high on their time or the company's time? You don't.

WTF does tobacco have to do with this subject? Does it impare thought, coordination and ability? No, it doesn't. Doesn't belong in this discussion.

If someone is taking (real) prescription medication it is their responsibility to report it to the company and the company makes the determination if they are fit for duty or if the medication would interfere with their ability to perform the job safely and up to a reasonable level of performance and quality.
Someone who has been smoking pot would have to be considered unfit for duty unless the job description is to sit on their arse, drool, giggle and eat munchies.

You weren't actually suggesting it would be OK for them to be high on the job, were you?

[island911]

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

I am also of the opinion that this medicinal pot stuff is a bunch of crap.
I'd bet that for every one person who has a legitimate medical justification, 1000 are pretending to just so they can legally turn their brains into mush.

I hope you never have to do chemo...

[herr_oberst]

Too bad he wasn't "just" a functional alcoholic. He'd still have that great job working at Wal-Mart.

[island911]

Jeez, the next thing ya know, we'll have police arresting drivers for being drunk or stoned.

How are people supposed to get to their (not a Walmart job) if the cops are not letting 'em drive?!?!?!

[t-tom]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

YEP! FIRE ALL PEOPLE THAT DRINK, USE TOBACCO, OR USE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS!!!!

Seriously, some of you guys don't put a lot of thought into your responses.

If you work for me ( I own a small business) No drinking, smoking or prescription drugs while on the clock. Go price just Workman's comp insurance. If you come in under the influence of drugs or drinking no questions asked you go home and you don't come back. I work to hard to let some piece of trash drunk, druggie ruin my business.

[m21sniper]

Seriously.

It's unbelievable.

I'd rather work side by side with a guy on pot than a habitual drinker or someone on prescription pain narcotics.

Pot is completely harmless.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by t-tom

If you work for me ( I own a small business) No drinking, smoking or prescription drugs while on the clock. Go price just Workman's comp insurance. If you come in under the influence of drugs or drinking no questions asked you go home and you don't come back. I work to hard to let some piece of trash drunk, druggie ruin my business.

So someone using prescribed drugs (which pot is now) for a serious and painful ailment is a piece of trash druggie?

Again, some of you guys utterly amaze me.

[kach22i]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/17/wal-mart-sympathetic-man-fired-medical-marijuana-wont-rehire/

Dan Korobkin, a staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union's Michigan branch, said Wal-Mart's action against Casias is unlawful and "shameful.".........

"It's illegal to fire somebody for being a medical marijuana patient, and it's also shameful to punish somebody for treating their medical condition in a legal way," Korobkin told FoxNews.com. "As far as I know, Wal-Mart itself sells a lot of over-the-counter drugs and prescription medications."....................

............"Wal-Mart is a large corporation, but they don't supersede state laws," he said. "When the voters of the state vote to make the use of medical marijuana legal and protected, that is a law that binds even Wal-Mart."

I'm with the ACLU lawyer on this one, no corporation is above the law.

[island911]

Originally Posted by nostatic

I hope you never have to do chemo...

What a load of crap.

Did you know that for anti-freez poisoning, (think Rover the dog) that the treatment is to get them drunk? --regular alcohol competes in the liver with.. nevermind

Anyway, if a treatment knock a person on their butt, why should they be working? ...because it weed, and that's ahhh . . .huh. . .aahhhh...

btw, my dad tried the medicinal marijuana when he was dying of cancer and it's treatments -- it did nothing but make him feel worse.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by austin552

Not sure exactly what you are suggesting, but it appears that you THINK the Christian thing to do would be to allow a drug user to endanger the company or it's employees.

Just ther opposite is true.
If someone is on the job and is under the influence of pot their coordination and judgement is impared, there is no argument counter to that. Sorry. Dude.

In short they are a liability. They are a danger to themselves and their co-workers and to the company's well-being. Just like if they were drunk on the job.
Allowing that to happen just to accomodate someone who wants to get high would not be the Christian thing to do, it would be the stupid thing to do.

Put down the pipe for a while and it may become clear again. That whole logic thing obviously isn't working.