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A Pennsylvania Spoon
This is a Pennsylvania Spoon made in the Lancaster style in 1975 by a guy named Jerry Kirklin. It is 45 caliber flintlock. Kirklin is still making rifles in Birmingham, MI...He is a known contemporary rifle maker...The rifle is nicely decorated with carving and a German silver star on the cheek piece. This lil spoon will set me back a cool G delivered....quite frankly you can not have a rifle made by one of these guys for what I paid.
Collecting Pennsylvania rifle one can collect the originals in which the price range is from $1500 to over $100,000.00. Or one can delve into the contemporary rifles where the price range is from about $1000 to apx $10,000 for a well respected maker. This field of collecting has been long established and is considered to be an art form. The contemporary rifles represents a very under collected area, part of the problem is that there is no real data base of contemporary makers extant  
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Beautiful.
Are these the same Pennsylvania rifles that gained popularity with the revolutionary forces due to their accuracy at long distances?
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They aka Kentucky rifles...In the early 1700's alot of German immigrants settled in Pennsylvania bringing the old world gun makers art with them. Some of the contemporary makers even make their own barrels and locks in the traditional way...or they purchase one from a custom maker. This stuff can be considered to be a Folk Art..
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This is another contemporary piece by a man named Don Kammerer. Kammerer passed away in 1997 and was another well known and respected gun maker out of Kendiville IN. He used to dispaly his arms at Friendship. This rifle also came with an extra smooth bore barrel and lock
This paticular spoon is a German Jagger rilfe of the early 1700's, this is of the type that is considered to be the forerunner of the Pennsylvania rifles. German rifles were short and of large caliber for the brush and woods of Europe.(basically from 50 to 70 caliber) Coming to America the guns grew longer for distance and of smaller caliber for more shots per pound of ball and powder. Basically from 36 caliber to 50 caliber.. Later as the Westward movement got to the Plains the rifles grew shorter once again for ease of carrying on horseback...calibers for the bigger game on the plains once again grew larger..basiccally from 45 to 58 caliber. 
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Typical contemporary Plains style rifle..50 caliber
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This is a contemporary Alexander Henry style Long Range Target rifle by Don Henry Brown. Don passed away in January 2009 at 80 years old. This was the last order he took for one of his completed rifles, and was dlivered several months before he passed away Dons rifles are used by quite a number of Long Range shooters This spoon set me back alot
This is of the type that the English, Irish and Austrailian rifle teams used at the Creedmore Rifle Match in 1874. The English team were beaten by the American team using SS breechloaders of the Sharps, Remington and Peadody type because of them shot at the wrong target at 1000 yards. The typical caliber for one of these is 451.   
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Tabs: Beautiful Rifle, I have an original 50 cal Hawkin Plains Rifle under going restoration
right now should be done by this July, can`t wait to shoot it again, very accurate past 300 yards. |
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Neat stuff...all depends on what floats yer boat, I guess. But it's nice to know these craftsmen are out there.
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And so the "Kentucky Long Rifle" was born. During the revolutionary war, King George called the PLR, "The terrible gun of the rebels." The PLR was the standard issue rifle for the first established US Sniper teams, first formed in 1775 under the command of Captain Morgan, and first committed into battle in 1776. Hence my custom sig... Last edited by m21sniper; 03-20-2010 at 12:05 PM.. |
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You live in the midst of where this stuff can be found. Stuff does turn up. Buy a couple of books..Kaufman..Pennsylvania rifles..the Patch Box 2 volumes...and you is on your way. YOu like spoons so it would be easy to learn. Also buy Sellers, American Gunsmiths..this lists just about every known 18th and 19th Gunmaker in America for $35.
I am paticularily interested in the work of John Krider..circa 1850 1880 Philly percussion rifle and shotgun maker...Wurefflin, Slotterbeck are sevral other names tobe on the look out for... I have had several original Penn rifles...turned em for more than double what I had in em... Also you can turn up the contemporary makers work from time to time..my suggestion on that is to be able to find out who he is before you plunge...as indicated above some cn be bought for way less than the cost of making one today.
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I know a man here in PA who's family built rifles named Shreckengost. He's very old although I saw him just today at a gunshow. He is always looking for guns made by his family. He himself is a genius gunsmith, a little on the crazy side. He is making a mannlicher stock for a friend of mines Mauser. Tabs if you see any of those guns contact me and I can get him in touch with some of his family works.
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An 18Th Century Assault Weapon
Here is something that I had made a long time ago. It is a SWIVEL breech (OU B's where the barrels swivel into position by pushing the button). Pennsylvania rifle made by GL Jones in 45 caliber. This means that it offers two relatively quick shots. It has Ivory inlay on the top and bottom of the tang as well as Ivory est ructions and Ivory tipped ramrod. The Foreend cap is made of ebony and the Flashpans are Gold lined. Ya just don't see one of these around everyday.
    
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woooooh!
Nice is not even a word that do these spoons any respect! I'm not a spoon type of person and prefer forks but ... these are really beautiful! The ivory in-lay is a very very sweet touch. Is that a Seneca wood mask on the top there?
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I can't imagine having spoons like that around... Hell.... I get nervous when I get one of the A5s out to shoot... |
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Beautiful spoons Tabs, WOW
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