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First motorcycle for short commute?
So, maybe its the mid life crisis thing, or just wanting a change.
i am about 15 minutes from work and rarely take the freeway to the office. In fact, I get to drive a beautiful 'back' road between newbury park and agoura hills. Been thinking about a first motorcycle, or maybe something like an aprilia city scooter. Dont like Harley's, dont really want a crotch rocket, some of the larger scooters are cool looking, but have a certain 'ghey' appeal. If I get something too fast I wont last a week on it ;) Any ideas on something fun but mellow? Also, are there any riders out there who have NOT been in an accident? Last thing I want is a run-in with a coyote ;) Plenty of those around here. Thanks! |
I never laid it down at speed.... I've ridden less than 3k on the street though.....
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an accident is inevitable. if you don't like the idea, a bike isn't for you.
have been thinking of selling my victory V92C. first $3k takes it. waaaaay to heavy for a beginners bikes though. iw ould recommend something like a SV650 suzuki. |
I was thinking SV650, as well.
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I'll 3rd the SV, manageable power, still enough to have fun and fairly comfortable.
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I've been looking at BMWs, just for the fun of it, as a commuter bike. Any insight from the riders here on BMWs? SmileWavy
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An SV650 is a good suggestion, although it can go plenty fast. Fun but mellow makes me think of a modern Triumph Bonneville or the Kawasaki W650. Even a Harley Sportster. Get something used for about $3K, because you'll probably dump it a few times. Get protective gear from head to toe. And I wouldn't really recommend doing this unless you really feel compelled. It ain't safe for newbies.
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Best commuter bike in my mind is the BMW R1150RT ( I have a 2005). Very comfortable, useful for commuting with lots of bag space. Not too big and heavy. You sit up high where you can be seen. ABS helps a lot. Plenty of power to get out of trouble. Lots of good used ones available.
I commute 17 miles each way virtually all year. I have had one low speed wreck on a previous bike, but you can protect yourself to a large degree by wearing the proper safety gear, taking classes on motorcycle safety, and driving defensively. Been commuting 6 years in the Washington DC area traffic, and never had even a close call. Besides- I love riding, it is a great feeling not being stuck in a cage. My commute is one of the best parts of my day! |
Scooter-wise, I wouldn't mind being seen on a Piaggio MP3.
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I've been tempted by a low miles Ninja 500r that has been for sale cheap here... like an '08 that can be had for 3500....
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My first street bike was an R1150GS, and while it was a great bike, I think 1150's might be too big for him.
Take a look at some of BMW's smaller singles. How big are you? Bill |
I vote for a dual purpose bike. Fun to ride and don't encourage unsafe speeds. Easy to park and cheap to insure, great gas mileage (small tank though), fun and easy anywhere anytime.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1270705514.jpg
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Didn't think about that David...
I am currently working on an NX250 to take on campus.. Hey its free... "Fun and easy anywhere anytime" Sounds like this girl I know.... I like it... :D |
If you're not going to do freeway, a dual sport is a cheap way to go that is upright and easy to ride. I personally think scooters are more dangerous than motorcycles - less power, smaller wheels, often crappy brakes. No thanks.
For BMWs, you can find various 650 dual sports around that aren't ridiculously expensive. The 1150RT is a pretty heavy bike - much more "serious" than just putting around to work on surface streets. There are two kinds of riders - those who have been down and those who will go down. Just the reality of riding. |
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might consider an old R-100 type. though i'm hearing good things about the F-800s. |
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(I meant by that, if you're selling one). |
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Hmmm....:) |
if you've got your heart set on a BMW you're going to pay too much. we all get bent over by that damn blue roundel.
the 1150R is geared much netter for city traffic. |
A motorcycle is a must-have in southern CA. Cheap to own/insure, great on gas, always a parking space available, simple to maintain/work on, split lanes, use the carpool lane, etc. What's not to like? They're incredibly practical.
The only reason I was able to survive in LA as long as I did was because I had a bike. I probably saved literally thousands of hours of my life that otherwise would have been wasted sitting in traffic. You can get to places in half the time it would take you driving. No joke, no exaggeration. And that's without riding crazy or like a maniac or swerving all over the place or anything like that - it's just keeping it rolling and a nice, steady even pace. And you don't have to deal with the smog nazi money-grab B.S., which is another plus. I wouldn't consider living in southern CA ever again without a motorcycle. No way, no how. It's a must-have as far as I'm concerned. As you might expect, I'm going to say get a really good helmet (best you can find), good riding gear and don't buy a POS or go cheap. Get a bike that you'll trust your life to - not some boy toy that some punk kid has gotten tired of. My bike is a Suzuki Katana and I consider it to be absolutely ideal for commuting - it's small enough to split lanes effectively, big enough to be solid and have good performance, it isn't a stupid obnoxious RUB-mobile Harley or a boy-racer crotch rocket. The riding posture/frame geometry is way more comfortable and upright than say, a GSXR, but it shares the GSXR drivetrain (different transmission gearing and different cams, otherwise the same). Reliable as a hammer. Mine has 60,000 miles on it and still runs like a Rolex. Be careful - shiny side up, rubber side down. Enjoy! |
First bike eh? DRz 400. Lots of them around and you can get some learning miles on dirt/gravel roads that will be low speed and with little traffic. Put 5k miles on it and then start looking at other bikes.
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Whatever you pick, make sure you take a couple of the MSF rider courses. Get some good riding gear, and use it every time. Get some sort of hard or soft bags for the bike, so you can easily carry stuff.
Then, practice, practice, practice.... I've been riding since the mid-70's and never been down, unless you count the dirt bikes... JR |
Good first bikes that I have considered in the past:
SV650 GS500 Dual Sport Monster 600... http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gal...600%20dark.jpg :cool: |
Scooter would be my first choice, for the intended purpose.
The most functional. Yamaha's are great. 150mpg. fuel injected. We have a C3, for local neighborhood errands. Most people admire it. You gotta be comfortable about your manhood, or not give a f'k, preferably the latter. |
[edit: removed the harley since your original post said you do not like them]
How about a Magna? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1270732332.jpg Light enough and cheap enough to be "first bikes" IMO. |
try out a honda cm450c if you can find one.
yes bmws and magnas! or any of the honda 750 dohc(just got one cb750F 1980, starts instantly, many cheap parts, can go on the road with it) Main thing is to BEE SEEN!! After they hit you they say "i didn't see you", or "where did you come from?" I wear orange hunting vests, seems to make a huge difference. they do not pull out in front of you as often. been hit 3 times when much younger, don't bounce so good anymore! |
Once you get a bike, you'll find that 15 minute ride to work just isn't enough. You will start finding long circuitous routes that will expand your commute to an hour+, especially when the weather is just right.
Good advice here, but overall...get something you're comfortable with. As your skills progress, so will your taste and desires. Your first bike won't be your last, so don't pursue it as such. Laslty, ATGATT is very important. With full gear every single time you ride the bike, you'll be more confident, feel safer and less intimidated, and will become a better rider. Be visible, especially at/after dusk. I've been riding for 30 years and have never been down. Perhaps that day will come, but common sense, a bit of experience and . . . did I say common sense?. . .will take you a long way down the road with nothing but a smile on your face and a few bugs squashed on your face-shield. You'll never see a motorcycle in a psychiatrists parking lot. Get one and you'll know why. |
I'd vote for a BMW 650GS, great back, can be had for $5k, can go offroad (dirt/gravel road not the extreme stuff), good selection of bags, excellent mileage, easy to handle and easy DIY. I commute every day, 35 miles each way on a 2005 R1200RT, 70% highway, you don't need anything that big, stay 650 or below IMO.
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I like my Honda cruiser. Big, comfortable, under-powered, and reliable.
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From your post I surmised you've never really ridden a bike. May I suggest you talke a motorcycle safety class first? Took my stepson to one. There was a guy in his class in his mid50's-early 60's that had always wanted to have a bike. Really nice guy.
Thru the 2 day course he progressed OK...on the last session/final check ride, he was going thru a maneuver that required going thru some cones and coming to a full stop using both brakes. He got a little confused and hit the throttle then in a paniced and grabbed a handfull of front brake. Front end washed out and bike spit him over the handle bars and did a nice face plant (his helmet was a high dollar with flip up face shield). Of course, he had the shield in the up position. Broke his nose and knocked out three front teeth. I think he decided it wasn't for him that day. I offfer this not to scare you away. One of the advantages to the class was they had a variety of bikes to learn on...from Buell Blasts to Honda Rebel cruisers to dual purpose Kagasakis to Ninja 250's. Gave everybody a chance to try out different styles of bikes/riding. |
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I've been commuting on a '99 R1100S for the past 8 years. Luv the bike. But it is heavy and wide. This weekend I'm going to look at a Monster 696 for commuting purposes.
First bike recommendation from me would be a small Honda. Easy to ride, minimal maintenance. |
My MSF course was woefully inadequate. I got a perfect score on the road test and I was still terrified when I picked up my R1150R the next week and rode it to NJ and back to VA. The course is still important, but don't think it's gonna make you ready to ride.
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Definitely buy a used bike to start - big name Japanese single. You will be able to sell it for very little/no loss after a year or two. My BIL recently picked up a bigger Honda cruiser bike. Zero experience with a motorcycle and grudgingly bought a helmet after my badgering...he said he's afraid to use the front brake and relies on the rear brake in all circumstances...he's a perfect candidate for the MSF course but considers himself too manly to go (or wear protective gear). Don't be like him. |
Whatever you do don't forget the leather chaps!
I like the SV650 but they are hard to find used... I guess they are keepers. |
I vote moped, but I have a soft spot for them... there are several classics that I want to own and which could work for back road commuting, starting with a Mobylette. Good for 35MPH+, 100+MPG, no insurance needed in MA, what's not to love?
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:D If someone has never ridden motorcycles before, I hesitate to put them on the street. Instead, they should find a cheap dirt bike like a Honda XR and learn to ride off-road for months. A lot of months. When you're on the street you have to have certain things as second nature. That includes the controls, shifting, balance/dynamics, and situational awareness. Riding a bicycle gives you some of this (the last two), but there is no substitute for seat time. And in traffic is NOT where you want to be learning this for the first time. |
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Not sure about the bike think, I've seen other motorcycles configured to carry a bike...I suspect it can be configured. the F650 has an active internet following which helps for DIY and modification, it's called the Chain Gain, The Chain Gang. Here's a link to a 2005 650GS, nice looking bike, $6k. http://f650.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=228830 Wayne C. |
I often think about picking myself up a bike too....but i'd freakin' kill myself. I drive way too fast.
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