Any hunters here using ghillies?
 

Forgive me for the rant, but in my search for synthetic jute I came across this.

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This, to me, looks more like a Swamp Thing outfit than a ghille suit. Where's the canvas protection? Venting? I've always considered the ghillie to be a resource for final approach- are people using these to stroll around the woods standing up? Do the furry woodland creatures actually fall for this ruse?

I wonder if their customers even realize how these things are supposed to be seasoned.

in duck hunting i have found that natural foliage placed in a way that breaks up hard outlines works far better than commercially available blinds. would suspect that the suit shown doesn't break up the outline enough either.

dunno if this translates to hunting for furry critters.

Ghillie suits are not supposed to be used for hunting animals. They were never designed for that purpose. Properly used that is not fair chase and therefore just killing.

In Scotland, France, Germany, Austria and Switzerland almost all stalking is done by simple tweed or loden clothing. In many places camo is not allowed.

Stalking men, I would use a proper ghillie suit, but I find it completely unsportsmanlike for animals (unless you are just observing them).

then why dont you wear a FRENCH CUT LOIN CLOTH!

Sorry, you're not my type. SmileWavy

Also depends on that type of terrain and foliage you are working with. That would not work well in a desert area but would in some forests.

I trust myself to verify what I'm shooting at, but there were a lot of cases growing up where a hunter 'thought' he was shooting at a deer/ bear / rabbit only to find out it was someone else that was hidden by some branches - I'm thinking this type of suit wouldn't help the situation :)

In New Zealand we tend to wear something fluro' Better than being shot.

I have one. It's still in the box. I got it as a sample. Most deer hit the flight button when they see movement. A leaf blowing can set them off. They will smell you before they see you in most cases.

Somebody would bag you thinking yer big foot in that thing.

I've never used one, but it strikes me they may be usefull for predator calling. Maybe. Back when I was doing a lot of that, though, I found just sitting very still in front of something that broke up my outline was enough. Anyway, I couldn't imagine actually walking around and "stalking" (we call it "still hunting") in a get-up like that. It would just have to snag on everything in sight. Used for duck hunting around here, one would soon feel like he were sitting in a huge wad of soggy used toilet paper.

I don't hunt and do not plan on starting . . . and never said that I was using a suit for any purpose. I was simply commenting on the design of the suits that are on the civillain market, having seen my share of suits that actually work.

When I do head into the woods, it's for stalk hunting (and then only with a camera or the opportunity to be chased up a tree).

mostly sold to paintballers.

Hence the stealth suit logo with crosshairs over a human head...

I never accused you or anyone of doing so.

I responded to the original question, "Any hunters here using ghillies?".

I explained the purpose they were designed for and that they are not required for stalking animals.

What kinda puzzy wheres that p'balling? I tend to wear fairly bright colors under an army jump vest.....

I claim my fair share of kills... Its all about a good location....

I pretty much never used much of a cloaking device when bow hunting. The dead give away of my location has to do more with the nasty farts from all the beer and beans from the night before!

I understand. My response was only meant to clarify my original posting in case anyone was under the impression that I intend to use one of these to hunt. I didn't realize people were using these for paintball but I saw some young man walking around with arty netting draped over his entire body (when driving past a now-defunct field near my home). Played in an actual woodland setting, I think people would be too busy removing themselves from bushes, briars, branches, etc. to engage the 'enemy', although the game may have changed in the 20 years since I last played. It used to be a pretty fast-paced game.

there IS NOTHING BETTER THAN SMOKING AND DRINKING while WEARING A GHIILLE SUIT while RIDING A QUAD AT SPEED!



get the SELF-IMOLIATING MODEL!



yes we have SEEN THIS!

you'd be amazed. i see teams of guys showing up in full on tactical gear. kitted out like delta force. with guns that cost as much as the real thing.


questionable value when running around ravines outside newhall. but if they want to do it, who am i to question.



for the record, i wear a hat, jeans, and a bright yellow "i'm with flaccid" t-shirt.


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not a full blown ghillie, but i have worn a leafy camo outfit. i looked like a bush! not the best for bowhunting, because all the leaves hook the bowstring. not good. for rifle hunters, a ballerina outfit would work, if you can shoot 300 yards.

my predator green camo works just as good, as a ghillie.

You're not supposed to walk around much with a ghillie suit, it is, as you say, for final approach from a finger tip crawl, or for laying in wait.

The original purpose of ghilli suits was to catch poachers.

Absolutely. The civilian equivalent doesn't even have the heavy chest, elbow and knee pads that would be required for this purpose. In fact, just a few hours ago I ran across what I believe was a gov't issue Marine suit (out of the way surplus store) and it was missing these factors as well- perhaps individuals are adding them afterwards. I'm not sure I like the way the new synthetic fibers sit or move.

Didn't know about the poaching bit.

The Ghilli suit was invented by Scottish game wardens called...Ghillies. Back in the 19th century, IIRC.

PS: Military ghilli suits come in kit form. Everything on them is added.

Slight correction.

Ghillies are not game wardens. There is not any public land open for hunting in Scotland (or anywhere in the UK) , which means there isn't any public hunting like in the States.

All hunting (called shooting or stalking in the UK, "hunting" is riding to hounds) is on private land. You are invited or pay to use the land.

Poaching was a crime against a landower until about the 1950's. Poaching was dealt with by the landowers without recourse to the courts up to the 1920's.

Ghillies were the "guides" used by the estates to facilitate hunting & fishing for the clients and owners. A small part of their duties were to deter poaching. And that is why they invented this type garment. To hunt men (by lying in ambush).

When did this happen? Our teams used to build their own from scratch- and I've only been out for ~12 years. Wonder if 2/29th still teaches soldiers to build their own.