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herr_oberst 04-27-2010 05:31 PM

Ruf builds a V8
 
(Old news for those lucky Pelicans who get their copies of Excellence sooner than I do):)

4.5 liter, 32 valve, 4 cam V8 rated at 550hp@8500rpm(redline)(!)/367 lb.ft of torque@5400rpm. (Nothing in the article about the vee angle)

Here's the kicker, it weighs 485 lbs, compared to the current GT3 engine that weighs 584. Plus it will sit two inches lower in the rear of the 911 than the flat six.

Interesting fun fact: direct drive for the water pump, generator, and AC compressor - no accessory belts needed.

Production begins in late 2011.

Dave L 04-27-2010 05:40 PM

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enzo1 04-27-2010 05:49 PM

Man, that will be killer.... wonder what the cost$$$ will be? I'm sure Snipe will be here in 3 2 1

ODDJOB UNO 04-27-2010 05:55 PM

will the timing belt replacement be as much fun as the earlier editions????????????????

sc_rufctr 04-27-2010 06:20 PM

I like the idea. Sensible engineering and lighter.

One thing of note is that Porsche is using a strengthened version of the Carrera engine for their new Turbo.

That means they are dropping the proven 964/993 cased version!

I wonder if RUF were inspired by the many American V8 conversions. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1272421230.jpg

ODDJOB UNO 04-27-2010 06:40 PM

mmmmm yummy! wonder how that would drop into a regular old pick 'em up truck? LOL!

Schumi 04-27-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 5320626)

I wonder if RUF were inspired by the many American V8 conversions. :D

by the looks of that motor, I'd say.. no.

m21sniper 04-27-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave L (Post 5320523)
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Seriously, it's about damn time they put a real engine in the 911. :D

PS: That looks very close to a conventional 90 degree V-8

EarlyPorsche 04-27-2010 07:37 PM

I just hope production 911's get a flat or V8. I think a flat8 would work just as well. I don't see a reason that it has to be a V for space or weight reasons. What about a PUSHROD flat 8?

m21sniper 04-27-2010 07:38 PM

Why would anyone build a flat V-8? They're totally obsolete.

So are pushrod motors for that matter. ;)

Talewinds 04-27-2010 07:52 PM

I love the engine. Kudos to RUF!


But please keep it the hell away from the 911.

Schumi 04-27-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5320794)
Why would anyone build a flat V-8? They're totally obsolete.

So are pushrod motors for that matter. ;)

There's a difference between a flat-v8 and a boxer flat-8. It's in the crank.

The Ferrari Testarossa is one rare example of a flat engine that is really a 180 degree V angle engine- it's not a boxer in the way flat 6's and flat 8's from Porsche are.

This is why they need to build a flat 8:
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And it needs to go in a Cayman.

Geronimo '74 04-27-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5320771)
Seriously, it's about damn time they put a real engine in the 911. :D

Seriously, that engine is as much needed in a 911 than a flat 6 would be in your 928, and equally welcome IMO... ;)

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Originally Posted by Talewinds (Post 5320826)
I love the engine. Kudos to RUF!
But please keep it the hell away from the 911.

+1! on the "keep the hell away" part.
And as much kudos to Ruf as all the other Porschevs out there.
I'm not a purist all of the time, but a V8 in a 911 is automotive blasphemy, again, IMO

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Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche (Post 5320788)
I just hope production 911's get a flat or V8.

When this day comes, please let the gods of design use their powers and transform the looks of the 911 as well, in a Pinto, or Chrysler Le Baron, or something equally stunning....
Next time, use green font, so others know you're kidding....

Jim Bremner 04-27-2010 09:22 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1272432132.jpg


Flat head V8? WTF?

EarlyPorsche 04-27-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 5320907)


When this day comes, please let the gods of design use their powers and transform the looks of the 911 as well, in a Pinto, or Chrysler Le Baron, or something equally stunning....
Next time, use green font, so others know you're kidding....

I know, I know...heritage.

Well we need to beat the ZR1. 632 supercharged power out of a 6.2 liter.

Eventually you need displacement. Porsche can gizmo a six cylinder all they want but eventually you need to add displacement and possibly cylinders.

There is nothing "anti-heritage" in making a flat6 a flat 8. Plus imagine the sound...

m21sniper 04-27-2010 10:46 PM

It befuddles me that anyone alive would not want that V-8 in their car.

No wonder 928s were never accepted by the 911 KooLAiD drinkers...

Not only is it bigger and more powerful than the obsolete flat six, it's significantly lighter as well!

pwd72s 04-27-2010 10:51 PM

Once they went to water cooling, a V-8 was inevitable...right, Snipe? :D

m21sniper 04-27-2010 10:55 PM

If they had any sense they'd be SCREAMING for this motor in production 911s! WHAT IS THIS FASCINATION WITH AN ANCIENT VOLKSWAGEN ENGINE???

Craziness.

James Brown 04-28-2010 12:18 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1272442578.jpg
Here is a Lycoming flat 8, 11.2L (720 c.i.) 400shp non turbo introduced in 1961. Could mod one of these easy!!

Laneco 04-28-2010 05:58 AM

Put it in a 911? What are you crazy? I want to put it in a 550 SPYDER Replica!!!!

I'll buy Depends by the case. The car will cause massive bowel evacuation every time I pin the throttle and I'll keep coming back for MORE! :D

angela


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