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stomachmonkey 05-14-2010 05:07 AM

I need to get back into Painting
 
Jasper Johns "Flag" Painting Sells for $28.6 MM - Gothamist

$28 M for this.

http://gothamist.com/attachments/byakas/51210flag.jpg

Jagshund 05-14-2010 06:33 AM

Yes, but he is an arteest . . . not a painter. And he knows how to place his art in locations that attract wealthy people who have no sense.

Gogar 05-14-2010 06:41 AM

I gotta get back into painting, too.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1273848056.jpg

Jim Richards 05-14-2010 07:39 AM

me too, me too. :)

craigster59 05-14-2010 10:35 AM

Can I interest you in a Mark Rothko that just sold for $31.5 million?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1273862126.jpg

Heel n Toe 05-14-2010 10:42 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1273862516.jpg

nota 05-15-2010 09:30 AM

Works of Alfred Russell

http://www.parnasse.com/alfred.htm

thats my brother's work
he was in the school of the post war abstract movement along side Mark Rothko
he also had joint shows with Pollock and de Kooning

''ALFRED RUSSELL: Artist, teacher and writer Alfred Russell, a student in Stanley William Hayter’s Atelier 17, gained notice as part of the abstract movement that blossomed in New York in the late 1940s. Russell was featured in important shows at the Peridot Gallery in Paris, the controversial 1951 “Vehemences Confrontees” show at Galerie Nina Dausset, where works by three American painters (Pollock, de Kooning and Russell) were shown alongside European works, MoMA’s 1951 abstract painting and sculpture show, and seven Whitney Annuals (1949-55). In the 1950’s, Russell set abstraction aside, and embraced a classically-informed figurative mode of painting. He taught at Brooklyn College until 1973, and continued to paint and draw in a wide range of figurative and abstract styles until his death in 2007. Russell is represented in the permanent collections of the Whitney Museum, Brooklyn Museum, and Detroit Museum. Russell’s works have been rarely shown since the early 1970s. ''

from
tag me with a spoon — Alfred Russell, Wave Corpuscular Movement (1951) ...

too bad he pi$$$ed off a jewish gay art critic just as his work was getting known
by telling him the gays and jews had too much control of the art sales

he was right they DID !!!!!!

http://peterfeld.tumblr.com/photo/1280/593062974/1/tumblr_l2bmmb2w4R1qz802u

DARISC 05-15-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 5351764)
...thats my brother's work...

Thanks for posting - do you own any of your brothers work? Good stuff. Post some pics if you do.

nota 05-15-2010 11:06 AM

yes I do have some of alfred's oil paintings
a bunch of etchings and a copper plate
they are in storage and I will need to take some photo's

Zeke 05-15-2010 01:04 PM

I don't know what an original Rockwell sells for today, but he had the greatest niche of all time. He was so good, who would have dared to imitate (I realize there were peers and counterparts to Rockwell)? Everyday scenes that are so far beyond that.

nota 05-15-2010 08:37 PM

rockwell signed posters go for 2000 to 12500
his originals go for 30,000 up up up

DARISC 05-15-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 5352492)
rockwell signed posters go for 2000 to 12500
his originals go for 30,000 up up up

While your brother and Rockwell were both artists, as you probably know, they worked in two very different worlds; Rockwell was an illustrator who painted for the masses whereas your brother was a fine artist who painted for himself. I would wager he (your brother) had very little, if any, concern regarding how the man on the street responded to his work. Had he and Rockwell been acquaintances I suspect that they would have had little in common to talk about regarding art beyond the craft of painting - they were "about" very different things.

Rockwell is a giant among illustrators and has a huge audience of admirerers, which is what makes his work valuable, both in the historic and the monetary sense. The audience of fine artists such as your brother is always tiny in comparison to the audience of popular artists - and the competition for patrons and buyers much stiffer.

What I'm saying is that, if Rockwell is mentioned in art history texts (and I don't know that he is), he will be defined as an important illustrator, whereas if your brother is mentioned he will be defined in terms of the importance of his work relating to the artistic movements of his time, the avant-garde (vanguard), not his popular appeal or financial sucess.


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