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poorsche930 05-16-2010 10:53 AM

930 vs CC
 
Thinking about selling my 930 and getting a NEW nice reliable family car. The VW CC. I have a couple of W202 Mercs and an 2k Audi A4 also. The A4 and the 930 would go.

The wife and I are planning on children soon, but I know I'll miss the raw "race car" feeling of a lowered 930. The things I WONT miss are buying parts and working on it all the time. I've never owned a new car (and I've had 27) and never had a warranty. All of these things seem much more appealing now that homeownership, and kids are in the picture. I'm 32 and need some advice from some "family men and women"


Thanks.

Oh Haha 05-16-2010 11:37 AM

I looked at one recently but didn't think it would be big enough to transport the family COMFORTABLY. That is the key word.

My kids are 6.5 and 4.

Trust me, things can get old really fast on a family outing when you are cramped together.

My only advice is to really check out the rear seat area before making a decision.


Check out the Passat wagon with 4 Motion or even the Subaru Outback if you need something sporty.
If you don't care about sporty, then a minivan is the best kid-hauler, as much as I hate them they ARE very useful.

ps==DON'T SELL THE 930

porsche4life 05-16-2010 03:56 PM

I love the looks of the CC... I wouldn't own another VW unless it had a Warranty still....

88-diamondblue 05-16-2010 05:01 PM

I am a bit biased but for the money of the CC you could be looking at the Acura TSX or the TL. Far more reliable and so much fun to drive... IMHO of course.

HHI944 05-16-2010 05:20 PM

Have you considered a Genesis or waiting for the Equus?

carambola 05-16-2010 06:53 PM

VR6 4 motion looks enjoyable
too bad they don't come in a stick

Porschephile944 05-16-2010 07:01 PM

Your gonna hate me for saying it, but if your planning on having kids soon and a house buy a minivan. The sliding doors will make it much easier to load small children into child seats, you don't have to worry about them dinging other peoples doors and you can fit a ton of stuff into the back (strollers, baby bags, diapers, cement bags, 2X4X8 lumber, 4x8 plywood sheets, 911 motors).

My bet is if you get the CC you'll end up hating having to drive a comparatively boring sedan (compared to the 930) thats design inherently limits the amount of rear seat room and trunk space you have.

FYI, I'm 23, don't have any kids and don't own a house, take my advice with a grain of salt.

MotoSook 05-16-2010 07:09 PM

I don't understand why you have to buy a new car when you have the Mercs and the A4. How many kids are you planning to have and how long would you keep the the new car?

Really, two kids in the A4 with luggage in the trunk would be just fine. It's American to bring the living room and kitchen along on a road trip, but it's just unnecessary.

If you really "want" space and you plan to keep the vehicle long enough to get through a few kids, then just get a big vehicle like a minivan (Honda Odessey) or an SUV (GMC Acadia or Chevy Traverse).

If we didn't have 5 kids, I'd make my wife drive a use 5-series or E-class. 2 adults and three kids fit just fine in my E39. Even with a baby seat in the middle of the back seat.

I've had (wife's is still but never had issues) a vehicle under warranty, and it's not worth it to me. I still had to waste my time at the dealer, and if they don't fix it right I have to waste more time at the dealer. In the end, it would have taken me less time to fix it myself. Sure the security of a warranty is nice, and they want you to want that security. But for me... Forgetaboutit. I'll buy used and have money left over for and major repairs I don't feel like doing. But the reality is that modern cars are built way better than ever. A 1-2 year old vehicle is really good as new and shouldn't need any major repair. Not only that a certified pre-owned vehicle may also have a good warranty. Save your money and buy used.

look 171 05-17-2010 01:06 AM

Well, my wife had an A4 and have a 930 myself. The A4 is fine with the first llittle guy. Cute baby, young cute wife with a sporty, cool A4. Somewhere along the line, we got a Subi Outback and no more Audi. Still sporty and a cool wagon. Come the 2nd baby, and the first one's getting bigger and heavier. Try and lift him into the baby seat in the back of the Subi in a tight parking stall without putting dings onto something isn't fun. He was killing our backs. Mini van is your solution. You don't need it, but you want it. do it for your wife. Just think, holding a 18lbs baby with a baby bag full of goodies strapped over her and a bag full of new clothes and shoes walking to the car from the mall isn't fun if you have to reach for a door handle with the third hand she wish she had. We have a Sienna. With a press of a button, we can open the automatic sliding doors and /or the trunk before we get there. Just think, my poor wife has deal with the 2nd baby on top of that. One more important thing, for those who like cars. We have 2 boys age 2 1/2 and 4 1/2. They fight sometimes even in the back of the van with lots of room between them. I can't think what it would be like in a small car like the A4.

Try to keep the 930 if you can. I did. Now I drive it only 5-6 times a year if I am lucky. Welcom to loosing everything you got once the kid(s) come. It is still worth it and I would not trade them for the world. Good luck.

Jeff

A930Rocket 05-17-2010 04:21 AM

Anything that will make life easier is a plus. Bigger car, sliding doors, remote opening, etc. Everybody over packs and add the stroller and ports crib, you'll be crying for more room.

That 2nd kid makes everything 4 times harder with more stuff, control, etc.

BTW. Keep the 930. :)

911boost 05-17-2010 08:43 AM

I would second everything said here. Keep the A4 for the first baby and see how much you take up. We had a Volvo S60 with our first, and it was just fine.

Having the extra room of a mini van or SUV is nice, but when they are babies not really neccesary.

Don't sell the 930. I sold my 911 when my first was almost 2, bought another one when we had the second child. All 4 of us have gone on drives in the 911....

Bill

porsche4life 05-17-2010 09:06 AM

RESIST! Resist the urge to buy a Mini Van!


Someone please kill me if I EVER buy a MiniVan....

78sc 05-17-2010 10:26 AM

Hi poorsche930,

The post below from Jeff is right on the money. My wife and I have two kids and the third one should be here in November. Our 2011 Toyota Sienna should be here in about three more weeks and we are looking forward to it!! Yes, it's a minivan, but they are very nice these days. Mostly, it's about your wife though and what she has to deal with on a DAILY basis while we are at work. Like Jeff mentioned, with a push of a button, doors unlock and the thing opens like a starship before she even gets there with kids in tow and grocery bags hanging from every finger.

We currently have a Saab 900 and a Buick Century. The Century is hers, but with car seats/booster chairs, it's still tight. Oh, you want to have anyone else ride along...forget it...it's full! The thing that annoys me the most is trying to put a kid in a car seat in a tight parking space while trying not to ding the car next to me with my door. We really enjoyed the Caravan minivan rentals on vacations. On our last vacation, I contacted the local dealer and we rented the Sienna for a week and just loved it. Shopping recently, we checked out the Odyssey also, but went for the Sienna. They all have their pros and cons.

I would try to keep the 930 if you can. I still have my SC and haven't driven it in almost two years. Bummer, but family takes priority. I may get it out this summer for a few drives.

Good luck!


Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 5353944)
Well, my wife had an A4 and have a 930 myself. The A4 is fine with the first llittle guy. Cute baby, young cute wife with a sporty, cool A4. Somewhere along the line, we got a Subi Outback and no more Audi. Still sporty and a cool wagon. Come the 2nd baby, and the first one's getting bigger and heavier. Try and lift him into the baby seat in the back of the Subi in a tight parking stall without putting dings onto something isn't fun. He was killing our backs. Mini van is your solution. You don't need it, but you want it. do it for your wife. Just think, holding a 18lbs baby with a baby bag full of goodies strapped over her and a bag full of new clothes and shoes walking to the car from the mall isn't fun if you have to reach for a door handle with the third hand she wish she had. We have a Sienna. With a press of a button, we can open the automatic sliding doors and /or the trunk before we get there. Just think, my poor wife has deal with the 2nd baby on top of that. One more important thing, for those who like cars. We have 2 boys age 2 1/2 and 4 1/2. They fight sometimes even in the back of the van with lots of room between them. I can't think what it would be like in a small car like the A4.

Try to keep the 930 if you can. I did. Now I drive it only 5-6 times a year if I am lucky. Welcom to loosing everything you got once the kid(s) come. It is still worth it and I would not trade them for the world. Good luck.

Jeff


Tim Hancock 05-17-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5354484)
RESIST! Resist the urge to buy a Mini Van!


Someone please kill me if I EVER buy a MiniVan....

+1 :D Somehow my wife and I got by just fine with our two daughters without EVER owning an SUV or minivan.

GothingNC 05-17-2010 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 5354709)
+1 :D Somehow my wife and I got by just fine with our two daughters without EVER owning an SUV or minivan.

Same here

She is perfectly content with the Jetta TDI with our two daughters. Before the Jetta she was diving a 72 Superbeetle

We have rented a minivan for trips to the beach when traveling with relatives (need room for 7) and everytime we get back she is happy to get back into the VW.

89911 05-17-2010 11:15 AM

As you can see by my signature, I have 4 cars, ranging from a 911 to a Honda Minivan. I went through my "buy anything impractical for kids as long as it not a minivan" stage until I realized its my wifes car and she could car less about the minivan stigma. I have owned the Odyssey for 6 years now and it is the most practical car I have. 12 hour vacations with 4 kids and gear for the beach, no problem. Pick up deck furniture at Home Depot, no problem. Drive 500 miles on a tank and a half of gas, no problem. Never has had any major work and is now out of warranty. The nice part is that I don't even care if it's no longer covered.

NO LIFT 05-17-2010 01:11 PM

Do not let your 930 go.

Decide who will be driving with kids the most. Married, kids in the future, you'll soon have a dog and be hauling crap everywhere you go.

My wife drives a Kia Sedona van (246hp) that accerlerates faster than my 911! Got cheap used car with a back seat for a daily driver.

look 171 05-17-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 5354484)
RESIST! Resist the urge to buy a Mini Van!


Someone please kill me if I EVER buy a MiniVan....

It ok, I know how you feel. My wife and I have gone through feeling the same thing and ended up with the Subi first. Didn't you just get out of college? when your 2nd kid comes you might sing a different song, young grasshopper.

ben parrish 05-17-2010 02:17 PM

DON"T BUY A MINIVAN!! Seriously, they are fine for some but not for my family of four. Merc E320 Wagon handles all we can throw at it including 7 hour trips with the 120lb lab in the back. My sister has a new Toyota van and loves it..my brother-in-law hates it. Says the cross winds blows the thing all over the road and...it's a minivan.

look 171 05-17-2010 09:27 PM

do you really need a minivan? The answer is no, the question is do you want one? This purchase is no longer about YOU. My wife's friends and I were just talking about this very subject last Friday over dinner. They made fun of me because I was always the sports car and truck guy who pulled up in a Sienna. We went over how they can make do with a car and etc... I ask then if they could survive with only one bathroom with only one sink? Of course you can, but you want two baths. Yo don't need it, but you want it. I have a Land Cruiser as my daily. I live on a hill with really, really narrow streets. We were always getting crush by the Land cruiser's door which want to swing shut because of gravity. You have no idea how many times the door bang my head or my kid's. Catches my ankle too. The sliding door was a major factor.

Oh a bit off topic, We looked at the Odyssey. The cockpit was beautiful, remindes me of my S2000. If handle nicely too. The salesman was trying to sell me on that and how well it gets up and go. I wanted a nice comfortable vehicle so my kids can sleep without me drifting around corners doing power slides. I don't need a sports car of minivan. I found the Toyota was much quieter and a nicer ride. This is the KID'S car. Juat my $.02 to the OP

Jeff


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