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masraum 06-08-2010 09:44 AM

Worst Conv top ever! late model F-bodys
 
What is up with the tops on late model camaros and firebirds? I'm sure you've all seen them driving down the road with their top looking like it's about 7 months pregnant. It's as if the top comes loose from all of the top frame except the outside edges. Maybe the AC in those things is so kickin that the tops inflate like a balloon.

I'd be embarrassed to drive one of those things. Maybe they're ok in Cali where you never have to put your top up.

I tried to find a picture online, but couldn't.

So, what other cars have horrible tops, and can they tough the F-body?

kaisen 06-08-2010 10:21 AM

I owned two of them, a 1998 SS and a 2000 SS Convert. The 1998 had a white vinyl top, the 2000 a black cloth top.

Neither exhibited any problems at all under any driving conditions. The bowing or ballooning you mention is simply the low pressure area created above the top as the windshield aims air over the car. No big deal. The F-Body doesn't have a bow that runs from side-to-side above the driver's head, so it 'poofs' up there a little more than in some other converts with different shaped tops.

71T Targa 06-08-2010 10:38 AM

My jeep was the worst for this. Not really a convertible, but the soft-top would either be puffed out or sucked in depending on if the windows were up or down.

masraum 06-08-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 5393808)
I owned two of them, a 1998 SS and a 2000 SS Convert. The 1998 had a white vinyl top, the 2000 a black cloth top.

Neither exhibited any problems at all under any driving conditions. The bowing or ballooning you mention is simply the low pressure area created above the top as the windshield aims air over the car. No big deal. The F-Body doesn't have a bow that runs from side-to-side above the driver's head, so it 'poofs' up there a little more than in some other converts with different shaped tops.

Come on, the top looks like a single boob facing the sky on these things at highway speeds. I've never noticed anything like it in any other car. Yes, it's the low pressure. No transverse bow explains things.

I'm a car guy, but when it comes to the domestics, my preference is for GM stuff, but the top on those cars to me is right up there with the Aztek.

kaisen 06-08-2010 11:54 AM

Not too many pics of my F-Bodys with the top up. I used to leave them in the garage with the top down. If it was nice, I'd drive it. If it wasn't, they'd stay in the garage. But these give you an idea of the top and the bows:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276026754.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276026771.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276026787.jpg

gtc 06-08-2010 01:49 PM

911 targa tops do the same thing. Even ones rebuilt by an 'expert' in new jersey. The vacuum above the roof just lifts the vinyl right up.

Oh Haha 06-08-2010 02:36 PM

I rode inmy first convertible a few weeks ago. I had never ridden in one.

The car was a 1988 Carrera with just 26,000 miles so it was like brand new. I was surprized at how quiet it was with the top up.



kaisen--Is that the factory SLP 4 outlet exhaust on the SS? 6speed?

BlueSkyJaunte 06-08-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtc (Post 5394151)
911 targa tops do the same thing. Even ones rebuilt by an 'expert' in new jersey. The vacuum above the roof just lifts the vinyl right up.

Not the one I got from JMPRO! :D

kaisen 06-08-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 5394240)
kaisen--Is that the factory SLP 4 outlet exhaust on the SS? 6speed?

Wayne-

Yes, and yes.
It had $5300 in GM options and $2700 in SLP options, including the stainless dual/dual performance exhaust

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276046655.jpg

It was sold to a well-known Camaro collector in Canada five years ago when it had about 4000 miles on it. It still has under 5000 miles, so I've heard.

kaisen 06-08-2010 05:29 PM

SLP Dual / Dual:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276046926.jpg

Oh Haha 06-08-2010 06:17 PM

Very nice!

That setup had a great tone.

masraum 06-08-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtc (Post 5394151)
911 targa tops do the same thing. Even ones rebuilt by an 'expert' in new jersey. The vacuum above the roof just lifts the vinyl right up.

Not all of them. I have seen a couple that were in bad shape, but I've also seen some that were fine at speed.


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