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LeeH 06-11-2010 12:17 AM

Video of border shooting: Justified or not?
 
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ODDJOB UNO 06-11-2010 05:51 AM

can i throw rocks AT YOUR HEAD? this would have never happened if rocks were outlawed in messiko.



OUTLAW ROCKS NOW!

ODDJOB UNO 06-11-2010 05:54 AM

next a concealed rock permit.

register all rocks.


integral locks on all rocks.


no sales of rocks to minors.


no rocks whatsoever concealed or open in kalifornia.


no full auto rock parts or sears.


no rock magazines over 10 rds.


no short barreled rocks.


no sawed off rocks.

slakjaw 06-11-2010 06:11 AM

Video is useless. You cant see anything.

ODDJOB UNO 06-11-2010 06:16 AM

hmm david and goliath comes to mind here this sleepy am.


ban all slingshots also.

GH85Carrera 06-11-2010 06:20 AM

Oddjob, with all the rocks laying around your place will you get arrested for possession of a deadly weapon? Is it possession if it is on your property, hence it is yours or do ya hafta pick up the rock to make it a weapon?

ODDJOB UNO 06-11-2010 06:23 AM

possession of a rock is illegal. having a cocked rock is illegal. having a rock without a safety is illegal. having a bayonet on a rock is illegal.
having an unregistered rock is illegal.

thinking about rocks is illegal.

GH85Carrera 06-11-2010 06:29 AM

Man, a cocked rock that sound kinky. I don't want to know about that perversion.

ODDJOB UNO 06-11-2010 06:52 AM

after consulting with our lawyers there will soon be laws re: igneous,metamorphic,and sedimentary types of rocks.


granitic rocks will be banned from any furthur importations.



clone rocks also will be banned.


curios and relic rocks are still allowed to be possessed as long as they are DE-MILLED!

island911 06-11-2010 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slakjaw (Post 5399057)
Video is useless. You cant see anything.

You can see the US border guy nab one of the guys probing the boarder. He's trying to cuff him when he draws his gun as the other homies converge. He holds his gun as they continue to converge. -- I guess they thought that they had the tactical advantage on the lone officer.

Of course the messicans (did i speel dat rite?) will spin this as if the Americans opened up with machine-gun fire on some young students innocently playing catch, down by the river.


btw, can we still have pet-rocks? .. . if they are trained to sit, and kept in a cage?

KevinP73 06-11-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5399335)


btw, can we still have pet-rocks? .. . if they are trained to sit, and kept in a cage?

Pet rocks are a very dangerous breed. But some would argue that it's the rock owner and not the rock itself.

ODDJOB UNO 06-11-2010 09:37 AM

boarder is spilled BORDER


missikans is spilled messikans or messiko. and its PRO-nounced MESS-I-KO and the meaning stems from its a MESS!


pet rocks will only be allowed if registered, all shots immunizations, paper trail,ISO 9001 documentation, 1070 documentation,birth certificate,sample of DNA, and caged permanently with smith and wesson dept of justice approved kinder gentleer handcuffs and muzzles.



yep all those messikans were catholic choir boys spending a leisurely afternoon trout fishing and reading the bible. its all messed up down der.

ZLP 06-11-2010 09:45 AM

It was a good shoot.

Hugh R 06-11-2010 09:49 AM

Lets see, if you pick up a rock and are going to try and kill me with it, I'm going to do my best to prevent it. If I have a gun, I'm going to shoot you. What else is there to understand?

island911 06-11-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 5399364)
It was a good shoot.

I take it that it was the third shoot that dropped the guy. (were the 1st two warning shots?)

I've heard that there is another video that shows the guy who got shot as holding out his arm like he's aiming a gun at the the lone border patrol guy.

speeder 06-11-2010 09:59 AM

The video begins with a bunch of people going through a hole in a fence on the U.S. side of the river and running towards Mexico. The bike-riding BP agent grabs one of them. The rest of them run over the dry river bed into Mexico(?)

What was going on there? Were they running from BP custody on the other side of the fence? I'm confused. I thought that they run INTO the U.S., not Mexico.

At least the video clears-up the rumor/lie about the BP guy being in Mexico when he shot him.

island911 06-11-2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 5399395)
The video begins with a bunch of people going through a hole in a fence on the U.S. side of the river and running towards Mexico. ....

Look again. There are 3 going to the US fence to assist one guy coming thru (from the US side)

island911 06-11-2010 10:20 AM

. . .kind of begs the Q; what kind of runner gets a three person escort to sneak back in to messy-co? (read: how much cash was he carrying?)

Sounds like organized crime to me.

island911 06-11-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 5399395)
...

At least the video clears-up the rumor/lie about the BP guy being in Mexico when he shot him.

I think that the US-BP's safety/comfort zone may have overlapped into messycan space. I'm stunned that those two charged toward the USBP guy with his gun drawn and pointed in their direction. The messycans must have been really well motivated to make that transfer happen.

ZLP 06-11-2010 10:49 AM

Those rocks are harmless right?
http://www.usborderpatrol.com/RockAttacks.jpg

Tobra 06-11-2010 10:49 AM

They were human smugglers. Nobody is trying to get smuggled from US into Mexico, so you have to be in Mexico to keep your business going. Pretty bold to charge USBP officer who has his gun out and is drawing down on you, more stupid than bold I guess.
Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5399389)
I take it that it was the third shoot that dropped the guy. (were the 1st two warning shots?)

I've heard that there is another video that shows the guy who got shot as holding out his arm like he's aiming a gun at the the lone border patrol guy.

That is this video. Look closely around 1:20, arm extended, maybe he was just pointing at the officer:rolleyes:

Rikao4 06-11-2010 11:17 AM

well the border guy pointed back & squeezed the trigger..
the 'good boy' had a record for human trafficking..


Rika

Gogar 06-11-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 5399395)
The video begins with a bunch of people going through a hole in a fence on the U.S. side of the river and running towards Mexico. The bike-riding BP agent grabs one of them. The rest of them run over the dry river bed into Mexico(?)

At the start of the video, there's one guy already through the fence, and the three other fellas are starting to go through the fence (into US) when the BP agent comes up. When the three "not quite through the fence" fellas see the BP agent, they try to run across the ditch back home, and he grabs one of them.


I think they should just set up sniper posts with beanbags and rubber bullets for a while, and scare the holy hell out of the messikans and give them some Hugh Jass welts with the beanbag guns and rubber bullets.

And if that doesn't work, maybe they could consider real bullets.

GH85Carrera 06-11-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 5399341)
Pet rocks are a very dangerous breed. But some would argue that it's the rock owner and not the rock itself.

Good one. That is funny!

RWebb 06-11-2010 12:14 PM

when rocks are outlawed... only outlaws will rock out

Brando 06-11-2010 12:16 PM

Let's get a copy of the surveillance video of our side of the fence.

HelmetHead 06-11-2010 12:39 PM

Get a visa/greencard and cross the bridge like any normal person would do...DUH!

Jeff Higgins 06-11-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 5399558)
I think they should just set up sniper posts with beanbags and rubber bullets for a while, and scare the holy hell out of the messikans and give them some Hugh Jass welts with the beanbag guns and rubber bullets.

You're spending too much time in airy zone nah.

Gogar 06-11-2010 01:41 PM

Si, Si. Es Verdad.

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Head416 06-11-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 5398881)
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The way I consider the answer to your question...

If I were in the officer's position, would I have been in danger of death or great bodily harm, outnumbered, by people throwing rocks at me?

Yes. Without taking action, they would cause great bodily harm. They have the ability, and are demonstrating the intent to do so. Bang.

varmint 06-11-2010 03:54 PM

calderone issued a statement saying that 90% of the rocks that can be traced through serial numbers came from the united states.

Head416 06-11-2010 04:02 PM

Rocks that are already outlawed in the United States!

Joeaksa 06-11-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 5399373)
Lets see, if you pick up a rock and are going to try and kill me with it, I'm going to do my best to prevent it. If I have a gun, I'm going to shoot you. What else is there to understand?

Totally agree, but then if I am the President of Mexico I have to spin this to stay in office.

Someone starts throwing rocks at me, be it on the border with Mexico or Israel, I am going to defend myself. Its not a difficult concept to grasp once you have been on the receiving end of deadly missles like this.

Racerbvd 06-11-2010 09:28 PM

Well, knowing that BP officers are being murdered, I don't blame him at all for protecting himself & this country from invaders..


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