US World Cup game - SPOILER

ckissick · 06-18-2010, 11:06 AM

Wow. You got to wonder about the referee's feelings toward America. This was not just a bad call, it was suspiciously bad call, IMHO.

BTW, I think even all you soccer non-fans would have found this match rather exciting.

Referee costs U.S. win, can't stifle massive comeback for draw - Dirty Tackle - World Soccer*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

bivenator · 06-18-2010, 11:14 AM

I am rioting as I type.

It was a crappy way to have that brilliant comeback spoiled.

Dottore · 06-18-2010, 11:22 AM

I couldn't believe this when I saw it. No can can fathom the reason for the call.

The only thing clear is that the referee did blow the whistle before the US player got the shot off. But why?

sammyg2 · 06-18-2010, 11:22 AM

Bullsheet call.
from that link:

In an effort to ease those feelings of anger and confusion, here's Slovenian goalkeeper Samir Handanovic cowering from Landon Donovan's mighty shot:

Rikao4 · 06-18-2010, 11:37 AM

alot of bad Ref. calls today..
Germany and Serbia..
I could hear my Mom across the street this morning...
scheisskopf....Esel..verflucht noch mal..

Rika

Zeke · 06-18-2010, 11:43 AM

I read some of the rules and interpretations. I guess I need to more fully understand what happened there. If if's the USA player being hugged by the defender and has anything to do with being in the penalty box, he was. If the hugger was onside but in the penalty box, he was.

But, I guessing that since people are saying this was a bad call, I'm not understanding. Help me understand what happened as the goal scorer was getting the ball.

scottbombedout · 06-18-2010, 01:05 PM

The US were robbed. If the guy hadnt scored it should have been a penalty!

Did very well to come back from 2-0 down, made it one of the best games of the tournament.

ckissick · 06-18-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milt

I'm guessing that since people are saying this was a bad call, I'm not understanding. Help me understand what happened as the goal scorer was getting the ball.

Who better to ask than someone who was there? Landon Donovan, who kicked the free kick, explains it this way:

"I am assuming it was a foul somewhere. We asked the ref many times who the foul was and he couldn’t explain it. I don’t know what to think about it, I can’t explain it and I don’t know how there was a call. We asked him numerous times in a non-confrontational manner and he just ignored us or didn’t understand.”

Sorry, there's nothing to explain. There was no penalty.

Eric Wynalda, a former player for the US team, thinks there will be an investigation. He thinks it's even possible that some sort of deal was made before the game to make sure the US doesn't win.

scottbombedout · 06-18-2010, 01:27 PM

Look these things happen in football. Refs make mistakes. There are no video replays, they make split second decisions and they can get it wrong.

No great conspiracy against the US.

gprsh924 · 06-18-2010, 03:21 PM

No conspiracy, but still an atrocious call at that level.

javadog · 06-18-2010, 03:34 PM

I've read that the foul was on Edu. I have watched the replay and all I see is half the other team grabbing our players in bear hugs, to try to keep them from getting near the ball. I don't see anything wrong with what Edu did, likely because he actually did nothing wrong. Worse than a bad call - the ref made this one up out of nothing.

JR

Noah930 · Noah930's Garage

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Originally Posted by scottbombedout

No great conspiracy against the US.

Fine. Then the referee should have had no problem explaining the reason for why he disallowed the goal. What was the infraction? Even if instant replay indicates the ref was wrong, the ref still should have been able to explain what the infraction was when he blew his whistle on the field.

ckissick · 06-18-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scottbombedout

Look these things happen in football. Refs make mistakes. There are no video replays, they make split second decisions and they can get it wrong.

Like "The Hand of God"?

Dottore · 06-18-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930

Fine. Then the referee should have had no problem explaining the reason for why he disallowed the goal. What was the infraction? Even if instant replay indicates the ref was wrong, the ref still should have been able to explain what the infraction was when he blew his whistle on the field.

You would think so. But that has never been the case in "the beautiful game".

sc_rufctr · 06:42 PM

The official ruling was that Maurice Edu was offside when he scored.

What that means is that he moved past the last Slovenian defender without haveing possession of the ball.

If you watch the part of the video were it shows the goal from above it's clear he was not off side.

I saw the game live and could not believe the ref disallowed the goal.
But I have seen many teams loose because of a bad decision. It's never easy to accept.

Just one last thing to remember...

One of the rules of Soccer is that once the ref makes a decision he can't recant and change that decision regardless of what may or may not have happened.
I know it sounds extraordinary but that's a FIFA rule.

Dottore · 06-18-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

One of the rules of Soccer is that once the ref makes a decision he can't recant and change that decision regardless of what may or may not have happened.
I know it sounds extraordinary but that's a FIFA rule.

And that is why Latin American fans have been known to storm the field and beat the crap out of the referees....

sc_rufctr · 06-18-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dottore

And that is why Latin American fans have been known to storm the field and beat the crap out of the referees....

Refs have been shot at the games by spectators in Latin America. Shootings were common at soccer games in Argentina in the 70s and 80s.
Some payers have been know to carry guns on the field if you can believe that.

Dottore · 06-18-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Refs have been shot at the games by spectators in Latin America. Shootings were common at soccer games in Argentina in the 70s and 80s.
Some payers have been know to carry guns on the field if you can believe that.

Yup. I seem to recall some games being played with the referees in armored personnel carriers on the sidelines.

aways · 06-18-2010, 08:13 PM

You have a game where it's so difficult to score that you have final totals that are, for all intents and purposes, decided by small-number statistics (i.e. which teams wins is almost random). On top of that you put in a whole basket of subjective penalties, disallowed goals, etc. and the outcome can be anything (the referee wants).

Burkie61 · Burkie61's Garage

Robbery.....not conspiracy...just one really bad call

SC - you talk about off-side. You can't be off-side on a free kick....had to be calling a foul - but the only foul I saw was the grappling by the defence on the forwards. Bad call.......