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Rick Lee 07-01-2010 10:11 PM

Not a fanboy, but thinking of picking up an iPhone.
 
My Blackberry Bold 9700 just isn't cutting it. Our new house is in a very bad area for AT&T coverage, despite there being three towers within a one mile radius. My wife's iPhone works a lot better in the house. I've resorted to driving to a CVS parking lot when I have to make overseas calls, yet she calls her folks in China all the time from the house. Anyway, I don't live for my phone. I want a good camera, good battery life, good signal, decent Internet and easy texting or emailing. Seems my wife's iPhone is better at all these than my BB Bold. I don't plan to load tunes onto it. So can I get by with a 3G 16GB?

porsche4life 07-01-2010 10:33 PM

You want a 3GS at least.... Honestly if you are signing a contract get a 4....

Rick Lee 07-01-2010 10:40 PM

I'm not signing a contract. Already did that, so I'd have to pay stupid money to get a 4G and I really don't care about the latest and greatest of anything.

slodave 07-01-2010 10:42 PM

Rick, just an FYI... I plan on upgrading to the 4, I have a 3G now. I am going to wait another month or so. If you can wait, I'll let you have my 3G for next to nothing. Mines an 8 gig though and Sidney is right.

Rick Lee 07-01-2010 10:43 PM

That's generous of you. Which one do you have? 8, 16, 32GB?

slodave 07-01-2010 10:51 PM

8 gig... Total call time 5 days, 21 hrs. Amazingly, not a scratch on the face, it's also been in a rubber case since new, so no scratches anywhere. I'll actually probably get the 4 towards the end of July.

matthew-s 07-02-2010 03:12 AM

FWIW I'm not a fanboy either. I just switched to the iPhone 4 from the BB Bold 9000. Calls are at least as good, if not better surprisingly. I think you'll like it. I'm quickly getting used to the keyboard too.

Jim Richards 07-02-2010 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 5434210)
My Blackberry Bold 9700 just isn't cutting it. Our new house is in a very bad area for AT&T coverage, despite there being three towers within a one mile radius.

What makes you think anything will be better with the iPhone? My son loves his iPhone but hates the AT&T coverage/capacity in his area. I suspect you'll find yourself in the same boat. My 2 centavos.

rfuerst911sc 07-02-2010 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 5434357)
What makes you think anything will be better with the iPhone? My son loves his iPhone but hates the AT&T coverage/capacity in his area. I suspect you'll find yourself in the same boat. My 2 centavos.

Well if you read his post he stated his wife has an Iphone and doesn't have the issues he has with his blackberry.

Jim Richards 07-02-2010 03:56 AM

oops! thanks for pointing that out. :)

JJ 911SC 07-02-2010 03:57 AM

Me too
 
Ill be picking one up sometime this month as its not out yet in Canada.

I contacted Blackberry (Canadian company) to inquire about their next Bold that is supposed to compete with the Iphone. I highlighted that they already miss the boat in the US and offer that I would wait if they give me a loaner until they release the new one I would buy one.

I got the famous... We do not comments on future release e-mail to which I reply; Sayonara, Mr. Apple will be glad to take my money as they did for the Ipad :D:D:D

ramonesfreak 07-02-2010 04:07 AM

i have a 32gig 3GS. never had any problem with AT&T, even in manhattan. Driving through very rural parts of new york state however, it drops from 3G to Edge network often making certain internet streams drop. i love the phone overall

Super_Dave_D 07-02-2010 04:15 AM

ohhhhhh you are all FANBOYS!!!!!!! Bunch of marks!! Sickens me!!! :)

red-beard 07-02-2010 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 5434210)
My Blackberry Bold 9700 just isn't cutting it. Our new house is in a very bad area for AT&T coverage, despite there being three towers within a one mile radius. My wife's iPhone works a lot better in the house. I've resorted to driving to a CVS parking lot when I have to make overseas calls, yet she calls her folks in China all the time from the house. Anyway, I don't live for my phone. I want a good camera, good battery life, good signal, decent Internet and easy texting or emailing. Seems my wife's iPhone is better at all these than my BB Bold. I don't plan to load tunes onto it. So can I get by with a 3G 16GB?

Have you considered one of the Femtocells?

AT&T 3G MicroCell™

The interesting thing is you can take it with you, and create an AT&T network spot anywhere in the world...

This is one of the nice things about my wife's Blackberry (its one of the the flip ones) and T-Mobile. It has UMA capability, so that anywhere there is an accessible wifi hotspot, the phone becomes a VOIP phone. This means that in Mexico, her phone doesn't cost us anything to use, it is like it is in the USA. And you would have no issues with coverage in your house, as long as you have a wifi router.

Rich76_911s 07-02-2010 04:52 AM

My feeling is, if you are paying for the Data plan it is just plain silly not to have an Iphone or a comperable HTC, etc.

That would be the same as showing up for a track day with a moped instead of your Ducati.

onewhippedpuppy 07-02-2010 06:26 AM

I have coverage issues with my Bold as well, as soon as I'm eligible to upgrade in a few months I will definitely be replacing it with an iPhone or similar HTC product. Even in major urban areas it will lose its signal or drop calls, even when others have a perfect signal. It also seems to have issues keeping a 3g signal, often defaulting to Edge. This all makes it burn through batteries rapidly as well, I don't even get a full day before it dies.

Rick Lee 07-02-2010 06:35 AM

Yes, I have considered buying a microcell, but can't bring myself to spend $150 to get the coverage AT&T says I should already be getting. I call and complain about once a month. So far they've comped me $25 off my last bill. If they get it up to another $125, I'll buy a microcell. But the simple fact is that my wife's phone works better here than my BB and I don't think it has a lot to do with AT&T.

I got a flat tire in the 993 in the middle of the desert in NV a year ago, 110 deg. out and no Verizon signal. I was getting worried when I remembered I had my work BB in my bag, which is AT&T. It had a decent signal and I got USAA's roadside assistance on the first try. That and my wife's really wanting an iPhone got me to switch to AT&T. Then we end up moving into a house where AT&T sucks. Go figure. In fact, it got so bad that I was losing calls on my work BB. The company just ported me over to Verizon and I'm a week into my new BB Curve. Now I have the best of both worlds.... or something like that.

matthew-s 07-02-2010 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 5434408)
Have you considered one of the Femtocells?

I'm interested in this too, but hesitant for two reasons:

1. I have Vonage, and on occasion I get drop-outs, echo's and jitter from what I assume is poor bandwidth over my cable modem.

2. I can't believe I have to pay AT&T for a device which lets them offload my usage onto another carrier's network that I pay for out of pocket for.

If I can get over those two points, I'll pick one up.

Ronbo 07-02-2010 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 5434408)
Have you considered one of the Femtocells?

AT&T 3G MicroCell™

Wife and I have iPhones and the AT&T coverage at our house is spotty at best. We only get decent reception in one room, but it's probably due to being located in a hilly area.

Anyway, I thought I'd give the femtocell a try. I have to say that it solved our reception issues completely, and we get 5 bars anywhere in our house and yard. Yes I too had a little heartburn paying them so they can offload onto my internet service, but overall it saves me money (I canceled our landline as it's no longer necessary) and works as well as I could expect. I'll recoup the cost of the femtocell in about 3 months and there are no monthly fees.

Rick Lee 07-02-2010 07:40 AM

I haven't had a land line since about 2003 and I have AT&T cheapest, lowest minute plan and still don't come close to the minute limit. Not much room to shave here.

A930Rocket 07-02-2010 07:58 AM

I have a 3G with 8gb and maybe 1gb used after almost 2 years. Who needs 16 or 32 gb? What are you downloading?

Rick Lee 07-02-2010 08:34 AM

I do wonder about how much memory I need. Can I check my usage on my BB 9700? I don't plan to put music on my iPhone at all. I will use the camera and store photos there, but not a ton. I really do like the camera on my BB. It's better than my old Nikon CoolPix.

HardDrive 07-02-2010 09:43 AM

I've had my 3G for 2 years and am upgrading to a 4G soon. It has been an excellent phone. Trust me, I'm no Apple fanboy.

JavaBrewer 07-02-2010 10:07 AM

So at home the wife's ATT iPhone has good signal but your ATT BB does not? How is the signal at home with your new Verizon BB Curve?

I have the 16GB 3GS - frankly if you're not going to put loads of music and/or videos on it then the memory size is irrelevant. Hell I have almost 600 songs on mine, plus 30 or so pictures, 1 GB of apps and stuff, and it still has 10 GB free space.

My wife and kids are sporting the ATT Samsung Solstice (a simple touch screen device) and in our home (hilly area) they have full bars where my iPhone has anywhere from 2-3 bars and will drop 3G intermittently.

You can't go wrong with the iPhone but IMO if you're not tied to ATT then there are better options out there.

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red-beard 07-02-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 5434951)
You can't go wrong with the iPhone but IMO if you're not tied to ATT then there are better options out there.

It all depends on what you are planning to do with the phone. I need a high power PDA and phone combo. Others need an iPod and Phone combo. There is no "best" answer, only what is best for you.

Rick Lee 07-02-2010 10:41 AM

I'm just not really into the ergonomics of my BB Bold. They keys are much harder to type on than my BB Curve. I don't care for the slow Internet and my wife's phone just works better. My Verizon BB works better here too.

island911 07-02-2010 11:10 AM

fwiw, some cool phones should be out next month. (not to say that there aren't cool phones out now) but WinMo7 will be launching with minimum standards of WVGA, and one of the phones will be WXGA! (will record and display 720p native!) ...yeah, the iP4 is behind the curve.


Quote:

<p>The specs are as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>Launching: August/September 2010 </li>
<li>CPU: Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz </li>
<li>CDMA + GSM (aka a World Phone) </li>
<li>EvDO + HSDPA </li>
<li>Device Size: 115 x 57.5 x 11.2 mm </li>
<li>Memory (RAM/ROM): 1GB/1GB </li>
<li>External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB) </li>

<li>Screen Size/Type: 3.8-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported” </li>
<li>Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px </li>
<li>Camera: 10-megapixel with flash and autofocus; HD 720p video@ 30fps </li>
<li>Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4 </li>
<li>Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3 </li>
<li>Battery: Removable 1400 mAh </li>
<li>Talk Time: Up to 7.5 hours </li>
<li>Standby Time: 288 hours </li>
<li>Internet Use: 4.5 hours (3G), 6.5 hours (WiFi) </li>

<li>Video Playback: 10 hours </li>
<li>Audio Playback: 30 hours </li>
</ul>
<p>Reportedly both Sprint and Verizon is set to carry the device, which is a CDMA/GSM world phone, coming around August/September 2010.</p>
<p>Are we ready to believe 720p screens and 10 megapixel cameras?* .</p>

Although the 4.1" screen of the HTC HD2 is really where these hi-res screens need to be.

red-beard 07-02-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5435056)
fwiw, some cool phones should be out next month. (not to say that there aren't cool phones out now) but WinMo7 will be launching with minimum standards of WVGA, and one of the phones will be WXGA! (will record and display 720p native!) ...yeah, the iP4 is behind the curve.

Quote:

The specs are as follows:





Launching: August/September 2010

CPU: Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz

CDMA + GSM (aka a World Phone)

EvDO + HSDPA

Device Size: 115 x 57.5 x 11.2 mm

Memory (RAM/ROM): 1GB/1GB

External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB)


Screen Size/Type: 3.8-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported”

Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px

Camera: 10-megapixel with flash and autofocus; HD 720p video@ 30fps

Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4

Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3

Battery: Removable 1400 mAh

Talk Time: Up to 7.5 hours

Standby Time: 288 hours

Internet Use: 4.5 hours (3G), 6.5 hours (WiFi)


Video Playback: 10 hours

Audio Playback: 30 hours



Reportedly both Sprint and Verizon is set to carry the device, which is a CDMA/GSM world phone, coming around August/September 2010.



Are we ready to believe 720p screens and 10 megapixel cameras?* .


Although the 4.1" screen of the HTC HD2 is really where these hi-res screens need to be.

Well, that blows away the HD2. I might have to switch to Sprint for one of those...

island911 07-02-2010 12:56 PM

yeah, but like I said, these hi-res "phones" (GPS/VidCamera/FM-tuner/internet browser/PC ...) really need the larger screen. (such as the HD2) ..maybe a bit bigger.

I expect that future 'phones' will make the current bunch look like a Zoolander phone.




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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1278104166.jpg

nostatic 07-02-2010 01:31 PM

screen size is one thing, density is another.

As for memory, I have a few apps on my 8gig 3G phone, about 750 songs, about 450 photos, and I still have empty space. I'm not a "tweaker" though - I want the phone to do a couple of things well and that is it. I don't customize it at all. I have my one non-standard mission critical app (iRealBook), a few "nice to haves" (polytune, some Chinese dictionaries) and that is it. How much memory depends on what you want/need to do.

ZLP 07-02-2010 01:31 PM

Hey Rick, I just got a 4 and am selling my 3G 16GB on CL. I'll give you a deal if you want to meet up.

island911 07-02-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 5435284)
screen size is one thing, density is another.....

That's what I'm say'n...

Density (ppi) is getting too high.


Here's my old HTC (WVGA on a 3.6" screen) --about as bad as the new iP4


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1278107455.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1278107487.jpg

I mean, sure, it displays a whole lot of information (in this case 3Gs ad's on Seattle's CL) ...
But, such high resolution is not so easy to read. --while I CAN read it, it's not easy.

. . . the text is the same size as on the dime "E PLURIBUS...

The same pixel-count on a 4.1" screen makes a very nice improvement on readability.

Rick Lee 07-02-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 5435285)
Hey Rick, I just got a 4 and am selling my 3G 16GB on CL. I'll give you a deal if you want to meet up.

Let's talk. Is you 3G already on CL? I've found a few folks wanting to trade on CL, but my BB Bold is in new condition and I kind of want an iPhone in similar shape.

island911 07-02-2010 07:18 PM

Oh, Rick, just another thing about the HTC's; a few of them are 'world phones.' ...meaning they can roam on CDMA, GSM or even PCS networks.

I'm big on having the best possible coverage, which is why I have a HTC "world' phone with Verizon.

JJ 911SC 07-03-2010 01:45 AM

You are so lucky...
 
... and probably don't realized it.

In Canada there is no competition. It's either Bell or Rogers, both have the same plan pricing (double yours) and both screw us ::mad::mad::mad:


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