Tom, if that were possible, it would have happened long ago

Best,

Toby

You really need to work on your sense of humor. Pretty clear I was joking, or it should have been.

One can hope! (No political pun intended.)

Best,
Tom

That console looks like a giant iPod... yuck.

In the late 1980's and early 1990's Adcom, Proceed and Martin Logan along with several other mid-fi and Hi-Fi stereo companies marketed white stereo components and speakers. This is what the white center console reminded me of. I must be old because I don't know how this could look like an i-pod.

Try not to judge anything you see by photos, you have to reserve judgment until you see one for yourself. It's pretty weird how the car photos, like I said fun-house mirrors.

Kach, Thak you for the pre release photos. I like seeing it in the real world.

I guess this is why they do the clay models. It seems that particularly with cars, photos don't seem to convey how good, or bad, they look in real life. I did not really like the Cayman in photos, but when I saw one in person it was a whole new ballgame.

I just read Elon Musk's comments on the Nissan Leaf.

Sounds like it comes down to water cooled batteries on the Tesla vs air cooled batteries on the Leaf. We all know how bad that air cooling is ;)

I guess time will tell.

Let's ask Elon... Which design is better yours or this new one......