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lane912 10-18-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by R K T (Post 5621890)
I used to be in charge of about 50 people at work. I would tell them once.....
If you come to work early, you're actually on time. If you come to work on time, you're actually late. If you come to work late, you're actually fired!

i worked for you once, you didnt like it when i put that extra 15 on the time card or better yet split 15 early if i was all done-

Loomis 10-18-2010 08:15 PM

Sounds like a lot of fun...
 
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Originally Posted by R K T (Post 5621890)
I used to be in charge of about 50 people at work. I would tell them once.....
If you come to work early, you're actually on time. If you come to work on time, you're actually late. If you come to work late, you're actually fired!

I find that if you hire adults, treat them like adults - and give them some leeway to do their jobs - there's no reason to manage like that. I'd rather concentrate on results, not the clock.

aigel 10-18-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Loomis (Post 5622799)
I find that if you hire adults, treat them like adults - and give them some leeway to do their jobs - there's no reason to manage like that. I'd rather concentrate on results, not the clock.

It depends. In manufacturing you need the new shift there before the old one goes home, otherwise your line is down.

I hate people that are late for dinner invitations. I already give some extra time, but if you are late more than 30 minutes at my house from the announced "dinner will be served at x", you will likely not be re-invited, unless you are very entertaining or bring very good wine.

G

aigel 10-18-2010 09:39 PM

A lady at school would be late every morning dropping her kids off. Systematic 5+ minutes. Never on time, never early.

How far would setting the alarm 15 minutes early go on something like that? It truly amazed me.

George

epbrown 10-19-2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 5622874)
A lady at school would be late every morning dropping her kids off. Systematic 5+ minutes. Never on time, never early.

How far would setting the alarm 15 minutes early go on something like that? It truly amazed me.

We have a similar thing at work. A woman in another department is late almost every day saying it's due to traffic and she shouldn't be reprimanded because, hey, traffic isn't her fault - it should only take her 30 minutes to get to work! "Well, why not leave 15 minutes earlier and if traffic is bad you'll still be on time?" "But if it's good, I'll get here early!"

GH85Carrera 10-19-2010 04:59 AM

We had a lady I worked with that was always late. The owner got tired of paying her for when she was not there. He put in a time clock which was a pain in the butt for everyone else. It only took her a few paychecks to see that 15 minutes a day for a week is 1.25 hours off of her paycheck. It was amazing to see that she could make it to work on time if she wanted to.

Z-man 10-19-2010 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Loomis (Post 5622799)
I find that if you hire adults, treat them like adults - and give them some leeway to do their jobs - there's no reason to manage like that. I'd rather concentrate on results, not the clock.

+1 (except if you're working on a production line in manufacturing, of course!)

My take on being on time for work: very rarely do I leave at 5:00 on the dot. Usually I'm in the office till 6 - 6:30pm. If I LEAVE at 5:30, that's early. So if I come in around 9:15 or so, no one has an issue.

People work on different schedules. If the job allows it, why not be flexible?!?

-Z-man.

stomachmonkey 10-19-2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by R K T (Post 5621890)
I used to be in charge of about 50 people at work. I would tell them once.....
If you come to work early, you're actually on time. If you come to work on time, you're actually late. If you come to work late, you're actually fired!

One of my 1st jobs, Fred, the owner had that opinion.

And I understood it. If your day starts at 9 and you show up at 9 then you hit the head, get a cup of coffee, chat a bit with co-workers in the kitchen etc....

By the time you are at your desk and producing it's 9:20.

I have a different approach to time management. My teams are not in manufacturing so flexibility is possible.

When you have a mix of staff with kids and young single staff their lifestyles/routines are different.

The company hours are 9-6. You can show up as early as 8 or as late as 10. But you need to put in your hours and you need to be consistent.

For my teams it's critical that their headspace is clear. The stress of dealing with things like daycare dropoffs/pickups is counter productive to our goals.

Back in the day when laptops started becoming truly portable and had processing capabilities close to desktops I outfitted everyone on staff with them.

Rather than having staff get stressed and rush their daily objectives then submit an incomplete deliverable/asset so they could get out on time to pick up little Johnnie they could attend to their familial obligations and finish off their work in the evening after Johnnie was in bed.

Caught a crapload of flack from the CEO but it became very evident fairly quickly that the quality of work improved and moral was considerably better.

GH85Carrera 10-19-2010 06:54 AM

It is nice to have a flexible work day. I have had more than a few long lunches. I have had many short lunches. I get here early and leave on time. I sometimes come in on a weekend to start a scanner process. Some work I can do via VPN on weekends and in the evenings. In the end it comes down to getting the work out in a timely fashion.

R K T 10-19-2010 11:19 AM

The problem is if you let one person come in late on a regular habit, everyone else will try it too. Before you know it you have half of your staff showing up whenever. I was a manager that showed my workers that I was willing to do whatever it took to get the job done, and I expected the same. I think it worked. We were doing 1.7 million a month in sales of high end auto accessories. Everyone made good money with really big bonuses, and....everyone was HAPPY! We were so busy, I didn't have time for anyone who didn't want to be there.....on time!

billybek 10-19-2010 11:41 AM

Give her a good Gruen, maybe she will be on time after that.....

rnln 10-19-2010 11:58 AM

... having the benefit after every oil change :lol:

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 5621819)
Your first mistake was changing her oil the first time. Your second mistake was changing her oil the second time. Your third mistake was . . .



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