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KevinP73 10-22-2010 09:23 AM

U.S.Army insignia question
 
I found this in amongst my fathers military memorabilia. He retired a CW4. My sister and I were trying to figure out exactly what rank this insignia was for. We're not quite sure if it is a W1 or a W2. Anyone know for sure?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1287768128.jpg
It actually looks more like a U.S. Marine CW3.

Rikao4 10-22-2010 09:27 AM

1..
he made CW4...those guys are rare !

Rika

Joe Bob 10-22-2010 09:28 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_Officer_(United_States)

KevinP73 10-22-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 5629606)
1..
he made CW4...those guys are rare !

Rika

as are most dinosaurs.
Thanks

MRM 10-22-2010 09:47 AM

It looks like a CW3 to me too.

Army Warrant Officer Insignia History

cashflyer 10-22-2010 09:54 AM

In WWI there was only one grade of Warrant Officer in the US Army.
It was not until 1941 that the rank was expanded.

The spacing and colors are not congruent with the Army insignia, and looks more like a Marine CW-3 (as you also mentioned).

KevinP73 10-22-2010 10:02 AM

From the link posted by MRM:
On August 17, 1954, the Assistant Secretary of Defense advised the Assistant Secretary of the Army that the other military services concurred in new proposed designs. The new designs authorized by AR 670-5 dated September 20, 1956 were as follows:
That works with the time frame of when he would have been a CW3.

cashflyer 10-22-2010 11:02 AM

Good link, and I think you are right on the mark.

Rikao4 10-22-2010 11:05 AM

oops,my bad..
more familar with the current insig.
still ,as I said..CW4 don't grow on tree's..

Rika

Seahawk 10-22-2010 11:23 AM

CW's...

One of the reasons I sought a commission in the Navy was because my GF was a CW in WWII...he joined after Pearl Harbor. He rode the USS Breton...a more engaging, funny man would be hard to find.

His Brothers were Navy Chiefs, already in the service...they were everywhere during the war. Uncle Jack was the man who taught me how to play Cribbage.

CW's are the best, Kevin.

KevinP73 10-22-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 5629869)

CW's are the best, Kevin.

Thanks Paul. The people he served with and those who knew him well all have good things to say about him. I just wish I knew him better. With mom's passing I'm learning more and more about him as we sort thru her things.

Seahawk 10-22-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 5629905)
Thanks Paul. The people he served with and those who knew him well all have good things to say about him. I just wish I knew him better. With mom's passing I'm learning more and more about him as we sort thru her things.

I did a tour at BUPERS (Navy speak for Personnel).

I still know a lot of folks (ok, one folk, my former Secretary, but she is the bomb) so if you need anything, need more info on your Dad, let me know and I'll give it my best shot.

Tobra 10-22-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 5629606)
1..
he made CW4...those guys are rare !

Rika

No kidding, more than a Master Chief even. My Uncle is the only Master Chief I ever met in the flesh

Evans, Marv 10-22-2010 01:23 PM

Old joke about an old Warrant Officer standing in an officer's line with his droopy mustache and pipe held up by hand with his elbow resting on his belly. A 2nd lieutenant comes up behind and after a while (as they all do) looked to see what rank the guy in front of him was. Upon discovering it was a Warrant Officer, he tapped him on the shoulder and told him anyone lower than a 2nd lieutenant wasn't supposed to be in the line. The old Warrant turned around with his pipe still in his mouth and said, "Sonny, there ain't nothin lower than a 2nd lieutenant", and turned back around.

M.D. Holloway 10-22-2010 01:33 PM

Edumacate me on the tasks and stroke a Warrant Officer has.

KevinP73 10-22-2010 01:59 PM

Here ya go
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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 5630126)
Edumacate me on the tasks and stroke a Warrant Officer has.


fred cook 10-22-2010 05:26 PM

Veteran's records
 
With his name and service number or years of service, you can get his service records from the federal archives. I was able to get my father's CBI (China, Burma, India theater) records, my father in law's and even my great, great grandfather's records from the Great War of Secession. You might be suprised what you might learn! If he had earned any medals, campaign ribbons, etc. that info will also be included. Good luck on your hunt!

M.D. Holloway 10-23-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 5630170)

Cool! I Think I would have wanted to be a WO - sounds like you are all sorts of chops and none of the crap to deal with.

KevinP73 10-23-2010 08:39 AM

Dad was a Nike Hercules specialist. He also has some time into the Ajax and Hawk missle programs. I'm only now beginning to realize the extent of his accomplishments. There are tons of Nike missile content on You Tube, I've spent hours studying the faces trying to catch a glimpse of him. No success yet.

Jagshund 10-24-2010 02:26 PM

Currently reading "To The Limit" about a 1st Cav WO's experience as a Huey pilot in Vietnam. Great book.


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