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Let me chime in with the 2010 Golf, 170hp, great room, great ride, more power, four wheel disk brakes, Fits and some others don't have it plus they have what,120hp? Great transmission, did I say fun to drive. Good gas mileage. We got the best you could get, big wheels and all the stuff, next thing up was a GTI and this was under 20k. A GTI would have been around 28k. I looked at and drove everything out there for 20k and nothing came close to the Golf. The Mazda 3 was a maybe, maybe more power but not as much room in the back plus I just didn't like driving it. I thought it felt cheaper. You just feel better driving the Golf around.
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I went through this just over two years ago. Focus: The NA car is NOT what they have in Europe, so Top Gear's review was probably of the 2005 to present Euro version of the car, which I must say I liked a lot. Nothing in common with the NA version which is a re-skinned first gen Focus. Honda Fit: I am 6'3" and the Honda seats were a PITA after about an hour. A friend has one and a trip to the city and back (4 hours) with him killed that option. I also looked at the Civic, but found the styling (looks like someone dropped a wall on the hood) and the gearing/torque characteristics (row that gearbox or be slow) were not to my liking. Versa: Loved the room and the 6 speed. Hated the seats. Mazda 3s: A real contender. Both my wife and I liked the car. (previous model, they fuglied the current one). We almost bought one. Ended up with another VW, a Jetta TDI. We have around 135,000 km on it now. Aside from oil and filter changes every 16k, the front discs and pads were done around 110,k and the rear discs and pads last month. The current Golf is the same platform although the current diesel has more power and torque than mine. The 2011 Jetta is slightly bigger but de-contented somewhat (ie: back to the twist-beam rear axle, 2 liter gas and harder plastics in the dash.) Happy hunting Les |
New Hyundai Elantra
40 MPG!! out of 148 horsepower AND 131 pound-feet mated to a 6 speed auto And it's great looking And it's priced competitively And you get a 100,000 mile warranty http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291576737.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291576796.jpg |
I also like the VW diesels .My wife had a 2000 for 10 yrs .Amazing fuel economy and only major repair during that time was a ABS controller at about $1000 with a new timing belt and oil change combined. If you drive high miles the VW pays off and if you don,t then it,s still worth good money when you trade or sell. I have heard the gas VWs are unreliable but our diesel was great. My second vote would be the Mazda 3 or Ford Focus(which I think are one and the same.)
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OldE, the new Focus is the same as the euro ones.
Kaisen has a good suggestion with the Hyundai. My parents are on their 3rd Hyundai with zero issues, their Sonata was a very nice car. |
I have a Focus as a driving school car. Needles to say it gets the living daylights beaten out of it. So far 100,000 kms with only an alternator replaced (apart from brakes). It is an automatic. I have driven some standards and they are an even better drive. The auto does not seem well matched to the ztech engine. However, it's not that bad!
I will be replacing it soon. Probably will go with another. I like the Matrix, but you can't see the speedometer from the passengers seat, so it's a no go for me! |
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I bought an '03 Corolla back in May of '02. It has 125K miles on it and has given us no issues. Even manages to pass a car every now and then . . . while carrying a 17 ft. kayak on top.
Can't go wrong- except for the fact that it's an utterly generic car. Building the 914 and the 911 to supplant the e36 as a getaway vehicle. |
My other advised candidate:
2011 Chevrolet Cruze Eco 42 MPG!! out of 138 horsepower AND 148 pound-feet 1.4L TURBO And it's great looking And it's priced competitively (under $20K) And you get a 100,000 mile warranty http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291591128.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291591141.jpg |
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If you love Toyota, forget the Matrix and buy a Scion if you need a hatch. For the rest of us, there are much better cars named here (Mazda 3, Hyundai Elantra, Chev Cruze, VW Golf, Ford Focus, etc) |
Anybody try the Honda CR-Z? Looked kinda fun. Don't know how much snow the OP sees...maybe that makes a difference?
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I really like my Volvo C30. Bought it new in '08; compare to Mini, Mazda (3?) and GTI - MUCH more car for the money. Great ride, 3.0l, 5cyl turbo, 227hp, 6spd.
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I'm off this week so I think I'll do some test driving. We are not looking(well, the wife wants to go back to an SUV:rolleyes:)currently but I would still like to check out a few of the cars mentioned.
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I've spent a lot of time in a 2-door Yaris. It's boomy. And I notice a difference in quality of materials and fit-n-finish between that and my Civic.
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Quirky? Dunno (I'm too quirky to judge), but the AC/heater/radio are super intuitive w/o TFB (tiny fkng buttons) to frustrate my ham hands. Damn thing goes 0-60 in 6.2sec (my SC is kinda pissed - but can still lead it thru the twisties handily :)). They're pretty good sellers in Canadia and Europe, I'm told. But I've only seen maybe six on the road in SOCAL in the three years I've owned mine. :confused: I take automag blather with a grain of salt, but one comparo I read (between the C30, GTI, Mini and...I forget) described the C30's quiet ride as "the "TempurPedic" of the bunch. |
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