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GH85Carrera 12-06-2010 07:10 AM

Wireless routers
 
My mother-in-law needs a wireless router. She is subscriber to Suddenlink cable. She is a typical non technical computer user. I am always her technical support.

My question is simple, is there any reason a standard off the shelf wireless router will have any setup problems on her system? She runs a Windows XP computer.

The real reason for the wireless router is to set up Apple TV. She wants a way to display her photos on the tv, and to be able to stream HD movies. For 99 bucks apple TV seems the easy way to do it.

Any recommendations on which wireless router to buy?

71T Targa 12-06-2010 07:19 AM

I was all on board with a Linksys suggestion until you said it was for the Apple TV. Maybe things have changed, and I'd hope they would have, but Apple didn't like to play well on 'other' networks.

wdfifteen 12-06-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 5711468)
My mother-in-law needs a wireless router. She is subscriber to Suddenlink cable. She is a typical non technical computer user. I am always her technical support.

My question is simple, is there any reason a standard off the shelf wireless router will have any setup problems on her system? She runs a Windows XP computer.

The real reason for the wireless router is to set up Apple TV. She wants a way to display her photos on the tv, and to be able to stream HD movies. For 99 bucks apple TV seems the easy way to do it.

Any recommendations on which wireless router to buy?

I just replaced a NetGear that worked fine for 4 years, then toasted itself. I have two Macs, a wireless printer, and an Apple TV. I got a Linksys which works fine except the initial connection to devices is a few seconds slower.

rfaust6024 12-06-2010 07:36 AM

As long as your talking about routers, someone suggested as an added security wall, even though I have no server, just a few (total of 3 macs & 3 regular pc's), I should add a router. Isn't a router just a dumb box which lets data through, and no firewalls or security sniffers? Presently I have a AT&T wireless DSL, but do plan on switching over to Comcast Cable Modem.
Thanks,
Robert Faust
Redwood City, CA

porsche4life 12-06-2010 08:01 AM

Get a netgear, I've played with Linksys, Belkin, and Netgear, and the netgear has by far been the best.

911pcars 12-06-2010 09:42 AM

I purchased an extra AirPort Extreme Wireless-N Base Station (MB763LL/A) in case anyone is interested. Comes with 10 months remaining on warranty.

Sherwood

masraum 12-06-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

As long as your talking about routers, someone suggested as an added security wall, even though I have no server, just a few (total of 3 macs &amp; 3 regular pc's), I should add a router. Isn't a router just a dumb box which lets data through, and no firewalls or security sniffers? Presently I have a AT&amp;T wireless DSL, but do plan on switching over to Comcast Cable Modem.<br>
Thanks,<br>
Robert Faust<br>
Redwood City, CA
Almost all wireless routers for consumers include firewall functionally these days.

Scott R 12-06-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rfaust6024 (Post 5711511)
As long as your talking about routers, someone suggested as an added security wall, even though I have no server, just a few (total of 3 macs & 3 regular pc's), I should add a router. Isn't a router just a dumb box which lets data through, and no firewalls or security sniffers? Presently I have a AT&T wireless DSL, but do plan on switching over to Comcast Cable Modem.
Thanks,
Robert Faust
Redwood City, CA

The "dumb box" would be a switch normally. A router can create a DMZ for you and handle the routing between the private and your public side.

On a normal "business type" network you have your external firewall, that connects to the router, that in turn connects to the switch. Your devices are connected to the switch.

In the Comcast example they will give you a "modem" after that you should install your router/firewall/wireless device behind that.

campbellcj 12-06-2010 09:11 PM

I replaced an old Linksys WRT54G with an Apple Airport Extreme and have been really happy. Like most Apple stuff it is easy to set up, reliable, and looks nice. Also, it's expensive.

porsche4life 12-06-2010 09:12 PM

The netgear is super simple and cheaper than the apple. Also your local radioshack should have a nice sale on a netgear G this week. ;)

RWebb 12-06-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfaust6024 (Post 5711511)
As long as your talking about routers, someone suggested as an added security wall, even though I have no server, just a few (total of 3 macs & 3 regular pc's), I should add a router. Isn't a router just a dumb box which lets data through, and no firewalls or security sniffers? Presently I have a AT&T wireless DSL, but do plan on switching over to Comcast Cable Modem.
Thanks,
Robert Faust
Redwood City, CA

also, the firewall is a "real" one i.e in hardware, not just a software construct

the general idea is also to push the defense as far to the edge of the network - or so sez a guy who does both network defense and tai chi - and he is really really good at both...

jyl 12-06-2010 10:10 PM

I had 3 Linksys routers and router/access point. They lasted a year each. I went to Netgear (fine) and then to Apple (fine). Avoid Linksys.

GH85Carrera 12-07-2010 05:42 AM

I ended up ordering a NETGEAR WNR2000 Wireless-N Router

Wireless N is the new faster standard and it is backwards compatible. I looked at the Apple Wireless Extreme but that sucker is EXPENSIVE. It should be fun at the MIL's house. Setting up a new router and Apple TV. It is all "plug and play" so just 10 or 15 minutes total right?

porsche4life 12-07-2010 08:23 AM

I think you will be happy with the router, mine hasn't given any problems since I turned it on in June. My old belkin crashed like weekly.

Scott R 12-07-2010 09:15 AM

Don't worry too much about the speed of the wireless. If you're like most people your outbound connection is probably around 15-20 MB. Wireless "G" for instance is around 54mb so you won't even need that. You might be moving large files inside your network that could use a lot more, but I bet a lot of home users don't do that.

masraum 12-07-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 5713793)
Don't worry too much about the speed of the wireless. If you're like most people your outbound connection is probably around 15-20 MB. Wireless "G" for instance is around 54mb so you won't even need that. You might be moving large files inside your network that could use a lot more, but I bet a lot of home users don't do that.

She's wanting to stream HD movies. She's going to need local bandwidth.

Scott R 12-07-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 5713886)
She's wanting to stream HD movies. She's going to need local bandwidth.

Should still be fine with most any router, what's the normal streaming rate? 9mb/min as I recall. I remember the absolute minimum required was 3mb/min.

UconnTim97 12-07-2010 10:50 AM

Our Linksys router has been trouble free since we plugged it in four years ago. We have a 2 Windows XP laptops and one desk top PC on the system now.

myamoto1 12-07-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UconnTim97 (Post 5713993)
Our Linksys router has been trouble free since we plugged it in four years ago. We have a 2 Windows XP laptops and one desk top PC on the system now.

+1. No issues at all w/ my Linksys wireless router. Has been in use for nearly 4 years. It's feeding 1 XP PC, 1 Vista laptop and a web enabled wireless HP printer.


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