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legion 12-10-2010 05:47 PM

Return of the Battleship?
 
Navy Sets World Record With Incredible, Sci-Fi Weapon - FoxNews.com

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A theoretical dream for decades, the railgun is unlike any other weapon used in warfare. And it's quite real too, as the U.S. Navy has proven in a record-setting test today in Dahlgren, VA.

Rather than relying on a explosion to fire a projectile, the technology uses an electomagnetic current to accelerate a non-explosive bullet at several times the speed of sound. The conductive projectile zips along a set of electrically charged parallel rails and out of the barrel at speeds up to Mach 7.

The result: a weapon that can hit a target 100 miles or more away within minutes.

"It's an over-used term, but it really changes several games," Rear Admiral Nevin P. Carr, Jr., the chief of Naval Research, told FoxNews.com prior to the test.

For a generation raised on shoot-'em-up video games, the word "railgun" invokes sci-fi images of an impossibly destructive weapon annihilating monsters and aliens. But the railgun is nonetheless very real.

An electromagnetic railgun offers a velocity previously unattainable in a conventional weapon, speeds that are incredibly powerful on their own. In fact, since the projectile doesn't have any explosives itself, it relies upon that kinetic energy to do damage. And at 11 a.m. today, the Navy produced a 33-megajoule firing -- more than three times the previous record set by the Navy in 2008.

"It bursts radially, but it's hard to quantify," said Roger Ellis, electromagnetic railgun program manager with the Office of Naval Research. To convey a sense of just how much damage, Ellis told FoxNews.com that the big guns on the deck of a warship are measured by their muzzle energy in megajoules. A single megajoule is roughly equivalent to a 1-ton car traveling at 100 mph. Multiple that by 33 and you get a picture of what would happen when such a weapon hits a target.

Ellis says the Navy has invested about $211 million in the program since 2005, since the railgun provides many significant advantages over convention weapons. For one thing, a railgun offers 2 to 3 times the velocity of a conventional big gun, so that it can hit its target within 6 minutes. By contrast, a guided cruise missile travels at subsonic speeds, meaning that the intended target could be gone by the time it reaches its destination.

Furthermore, current U.S. Navy guns can only reach targets about 13 miles away. The railgun being tested today could reach an enemy 100 miles away. And with current GPS guidance systems it could do so with pinpoint accuracy. The Navy hopes to eventually extend the range beyond 200 miles.

"We're also eliminating explosives from the ship, which brings significant safety benefits and logistical benefits," Ellis said. In other words, there is less danger of an unintended explosion onboard, particularly should such a vessel come under attack.

Indeed, a railgun could be used to inflict just such harm on another vessel.

Admiral Carr, who calls the railgun a "disruptive technology," said that not only would a railgun-equipped ship have to carry few if any large explosive warheads, but it could use its enemies own warheads against them. He envisions being able to aim a railgun directly at a magazine on an enemy ship and "let his explosives be your explosives."

There's also a cost and logistical benefit associated with railguns. For example, a single Tomahawk cruise missile costs roughly $600,000. A non-explosive guided railgun projectile could cost much less. And a ship could carry many more, reducing the logistical problems of delivering more weapons to a ship in battle. For these reasons, Admiral Carr sees the railgun as even changing the strategic and tactical assumptions of warfare in the future.

The Navy still has a distance to go, however, before the railgun test becomes a working onboard weapon. Technically, Ellis says they've already overcome several hurdles. The guns themselves generate a terrific amount of heat -- enough to melt the rails inside the barrel -- and power -- enough to force the rails apart, destroying the gun and the barrel in the process.

The projectile is no cannon ball, either. At speeds well above the sound barrier, aerodynamics and special materials must be considered so that it isn't destroyed coming out of the barrel or by heat as it travels at such terrific speeds.

Then there's question of electrical requirements. Up until recently, those requirements simply weren't practical. However, the naval researchers believe they can solve that issue using newer Navy ships and capacitors to build up the charge necessary to blast a railgun projectile out at supersonic speeds. Ellis says they hope to be able to shoot 6 to 12 rounds per minute, "but we're not there yet."

So when will the railgun become a working weapon? Both Ellis and Carr expect fully functional railguns on the decks of U.S. Navy ships in the 2025 time frame.
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VaSteve 12-10-2010 05:55 PM

What is that a photo of? Energy release?

Aurel 12-10-2010 06:13 PM

That is idiotic research. We live in the era of cyberwarfare now, in case NRL had not noticed.

quicksix 12-10-2010 06:19 PM

Well it is not research anymore and at the end of the day having this asset on board will make a man of war a much more versatile weapon. Give me stand off capabilities all the time.

URY914 12-10-2010 06:19 PM

Cool, but will it stop a man with 50 pounds of C4 under his coat?

quicksix 12-10-2010 06:30 PM

Well of course not, that is what the TSA is for right?
Look at the bigger picture, when developed, this weapon could be scaled down and be deployed against the man with c4 under his coats staging area.

Joe Ricard 12-10-2010 07:22 PM

****y 3rd world countries still have guns, We now have a better one.
Peace through superior fire power.

GMCS (SW/CC) Retired.

onewhippedpuppy 12-10-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 5720742)
That is idiotic research. We live in the era of cyberwarfare now, in case NRL had not noticed.

Yes, I'm sure our troops on the ground in Afghanistan are terrified of a computer virus.

That's an incredibly impressive weapon. 200 mile range within minutes would allow it to replace many cruise missiles, as well as reduce reliance on airplanes for supporting ground troops.

daepp 12-10-2010 07:30 PM

Very cool research! But I dont understand the foto - why are there flames if it is electomagnetics that propel the thing?

quicksix 12-10-2010 07:38 PM

Senior,
Could not have said it better, some people do not understand the value of delivering the fight to the enemies door step and the impact it has.
Ao2 LaFleur

Hugh R 12-10-2010 07:50 PM

I'm not sure, but what I think you're seeing is pure plasma. Notice the pressure wave at the nose cone. That pic was taken at high, high speed.

nota 12-10-2010 08:03 PM

the rails still melt
thousands of volts and thousands of amps at work
these are one shot wonders

and who has a fleet to fight with anyway

M.D. Holloway 12-10-2010 08:09 PM

At those velocities couldn't you use that sort of technology to launch someting into orbit?

masraum 12-10-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 5720891)
At those velocities couldn't you use that sort of technology to launch someting into orbit?

Ive read about that before. They've got to get it to work effectively, and without destroying delicate equipment. I suspect it'll be a long time before it's working good enough to put stuff in orbit.

patssle 12-10-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ricard (Post 5720835)
****y 3rd world countries still have guns, We now have a better one.
Peace through superior fire power.

GMCS (SW/CC) Retired.

What peace?

TheMentat 12-10-2010 09:58 PM

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At those velocities couldn't you use that sort of technology to launch someting into orbit?
Not an astronaut! :D

Porsche-O-Phile 12-10-2010 11:07 PM

Not yet - Mach 7 is fast but orbital velocity is in excess of Mach 25

red-beard 12-11-2010 03:30 AM

At Mach 7, the projectile should reach target in a bit under 2 1/2 minutes. Unless it is slowing down during that time. 6 minutes would mean an average speed of 2000 mph. The initial speed is 4900. Which means the terminal speed is much less than 2000 mph.

Finally, unless the thing is guided, I doubt you can hit anything at 200 miles. They are talking about GPS guidance, like the J-DAM.

And the reference to the guy with C-4? If you can stand off 50 miles, and still hit target 150 miles inland, that would be pretty good.

JJ 911SC 12-11-2010 03:36 AM

Rail gun have been around for a while...

Maybe they will also be pushing daisy by the roots soon.

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Seahawk 12-11-2010 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 5721166)
And the reference to the guy with C-4? If you can stand off 50 miles, and still hit target 150 miles inland, that would be pretty good.

Big problem in a major campaign operations against a peer foe are the stand-off ranges for navy gunfire support. Anti-ship missiles are a hump.


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