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Scott R 12-20-2010 05:46 PM

Cayenne turbo vs. Cayenne S
 
I was on the edge of getting an 08 Cayenne S last week, then a nice used 08 Turbo came in on lease return. I drove it and liked it today. The salesman did say one thing that worried me though, he said "they have to much power in the snow." Has anyone driven one of these in the snow? (I know we have a cayenne board, but it appears dead)

MysticLlama 12-20-2010 05:49 PM

Our S was great in the snow, I'm not sure why you couldn't just start it in a high gear in the snow and be just fine.

Yeah, sure, you can hit the gas at any point and spin the tires, but you're not supposed to be doing that in the snow anyhow, right?

Ours has 20s and all seasons on it too, as opposed to runnning 18s and snow tires or something.

motion 12-20-2010 05:50 PM

I would try over on Rennlist

kaisen 12-20-2010 05:53 PM

Too much power?? And they let him work at a Porsche dealer??

Seriously, the Turbos will handle the snow just fine. And I see you're in Denver where altitude favors turbos. It's really about money, so if the Turbo is financially attractive, buy it.

kaisen 12-20-2010 05:58 PM

BTW, 2008 Cayenne Turbo Porsche Financial lease returns bring $48-55K at auction, depending on miles, colors, and options.

A nice Blue 08 Turbo just brought under $49K with 23K miles in Atlanta two weeks ago.

enzo1 12-20-2010 06:02 PM

how reliable is that turbo?vs S

Scott R 12-20-2010 06:11 PM

He seemed to know his Porsche's, but I found it odd that he had anything negative to say about the turbo. It's not the price that's the issue, they just didn't have any turbos when I was first shopping. But this one is nice, has about 17k miles on it, silver with black interior. I just found the suggestion odd that I would have issues in the snow.

kaisen 12-20-2010 06:14 PM

Find out if it's an East Coast lease return. I think it sold in PA on the 9th. Let me know if I can help.

CurtEgerer 12-20-2010 06:19 PM

It makes for a nice ice racer :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1292901471.jpg

Scott R 12-20-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 5738726)
Find out if it's an East Coast lease return. I think it sold in PA on the 9th. Let me know if I can help.

Will do, and thank you!

kaisen 12-20-2010 06:22 PM

Curt, so does a UrQ ;)

CurtEgerer 12-20-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 5738741)
Curt, so does a UrQ ;)

:D Yes ..... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1292902087.jpg

In reality, the stability/traction management system on the Cayenne is - by far - the best I've ever driven. It doesn't make any difference how much HP you're pumping to the tires - in slippery conditions the PSM is controlling what the tires do, not the engine. It will not let the tires break traction even with your foot to the floor. Any Cayenne with proper snow tires is a tough act to beat.

MysticLlama 12-20-2010 06:42 PM

We got a kick out of driving it up the hill in the now in 4low with the long lock on.

Turned TC off, spun the tires real well, and we hit about 5k rpm in 5th once it started grabbing... I think we managed 17mph. :)

kaisen 12-20-2010 06:48 PM

I really don't know why anyone in the snow belt doesn't have a set of good snow tires for each and every car they plan to drive in the winter. They make more difference than any other single item.

My RS2 motored Ur-S4 had 255mm Michelin Pilot Sports for Summer. I got caught once on an early snowfall and could barely control the beast.
But wearing 225mm Blizzaks, that car made me feel like Stig Blomqvist blasting a snow stage in Sweden.

kaisen 12-20-2010 06:49 PM

Moral of the Story:

Buy a Turbo, fit Blizzaks, enjoy

island911 12-20-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 5738764)

In reality, the stability/traction management system on the Cayenne is - by far - the best I've ever driven. It doesn't make any difference how much HP you're pumping to the tires - in slippery conditions the PSM is controlling what the tires do, not the engine. It will not let the tires break traction even with your foot to the floor. Any Cayenne with proper snow tires is a tough act to beat.

Exactly!

super fast acting control system.

Scott R 01-19-2011 11:16 AM

05 Turbo was delivered to my office this morning. It's a CPO car with 17k on the clock. pretty much mint condition. Thanks for every ones help.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1295468197.jpg

island911 01-19-2011 11:19 AM

Nice!

kaisen 01-19-2011 12:04 PM

So....... how is it in the snow!!?? SmileWavy

Scott R 01-19-2011 12:09 PM

heheheh, hasn't snowed yet, but it may later on today. With my luck it won't snow again in Denver this year.

wcc 01-19-2011 01:32 PM

My wife's CS is great in the snow! It's very stable and never slipping sideways or anything like that. SUXS! DANG THING! To have ANY kind of fun you have to turn off of the PSM.. LOL! I can only imagine the turbo being better.

Jeff Alton 01-19-2011 11:13 PM

Our 05 Turbo with 22 inch all seasons is great in the snow. Well at least the 2 days we have had snow.

They are exceptional vehicles!

livi 01-20-2011 12:07 AM

I would love a Cayenne Turbo as a daily driver all year, not least with all the snow here in Sweden.

BTW, I would have thought you guys were patriotically driving Jeeps. :D

Scott R 01-20-2011 06:33 AM

Ironically we had a pretty good snow storm during drive time last night. The car performed perfectly, it navigated the snow packed and icy roads like it was on dry pavement. I'm highly impressed.

It's in the garage with a bow on it for the wife when she gets home later today. I wanted to take it today since my company car is so boring, but why risk using it in rush hour traffic?

Racerbvd 01-20-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 5796492)
Ironically we had a pretty good snow storm during drive time last night. The car performed perfectly, it navigated the snow packed and icy roads like it was on dry pavement. I'm highly impressed.

It's in the garage with a bow on it for the wife when she gets home later today. I wanted to take it today since my company car is so boring, but why risk using it in rush hour traffic?

With traffic moving at 20 MPH yesterday, wasn't much for it to do yesterday was there??

Scott R 01-20-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 5797942)
With traffic moving at 20 MPH yesterday, wasn't much for it to do yesterday was there??

Yea, 20 was on the high side. Maybe I can do a DE with it or something. The traffic in metro Denver doesn't allow me to get above 40 most days.

stealthn 01-20-2011 07:09 PM

Mine works fine it the snow and there's only too much power if you have the pedal to the floor. I will disagree with Curt, it did take me a little to get used to it because even with PSM on, the pepper still let's you get about 30-35 degrees out in the back end before kicking in. My wife's Ford kicks in right away.

I've have had mine for 3 winters, lot's of snow -35 C and it's a fine daily driver. As with any short wheel base 4x4 it does plow a bit in slippery corners, but you quickly figure it out.

And yes, get winters on small wheels...

Jeff Alton 01-20-2011 07:14 PM

Yes to what stealthn said about winter tires, we have put a few locals into 18 inch wheels and snow tires. Then they go anywhere....

But for our westcoast driving, not all that much snow, the all seasons work just fine.


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