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Wilywilly 12-22-2010 11:37 AM

True Grit
 
Going to see the Coen Brothers new release of True Grit tonite. Watched the 1969 version last night on DVD. The critics are saying the new one is much better. The old one was pretty damn good.

True Grit | Official Movie Site & Trailer | December 22, 2010

audiman08 12-22-2010 11:47 AM

It looks good, I like most of the Coen movies...No Country for Old Men was fantastic. I will have to go see this.

enzo1 12-22-2010 12:03 PM

I'm a big Jeff Bridges fan, can't wait to see it:)

GH85Carrera 12-22-2010 12:14 PM

The previews look great. It should be a good movie.

onlycafe 12-22-2010 01:51 PM

a very rare occasion, me being a first nighter.
the duke has been on tcm since six this morning. true grit is on at 8 p.m.
catch an hour of that and it's off to see the dudester cogburn version.

sammyg2 12-22-2010 02:24 PM

Not enough John Wayne types anymore. He represented what made this country great.

Hopefully the remake won't tarnish that.

Hard to imagine the big lebowski doing John Wayne as I hate everything the big lebowski depicted.

pavulon 12-22-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 5742089)
Hard to imagine the big lebowski doing John Wayne as I hate everything the big lebowski depicted.

huh? How can anyone hate on The Dude? It was hysterical!!

ckissick 12-22-2010 03:58 PM

I guess sammy doesn't abide.

Rick Lee 12-22-2010 04:56 PM

When will they run out of movies to remake and be forced to become original again? What was so wrong with the original True Grit that it needs to be remade?

Nostril Cheese 12-22-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 5742089)
Not enough John Wayne types anymore. He represented what made this country great.
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I think it's a bad idea to remake True Grit, btw

Les Paul 12-22-2010 05:19 PM

I think i was a soph in hs first time and thought it was cheesey. Bridges and Brolin make great cowboys.

A930Rocket 12-22-2010 05:23 PM

Seems most books are better than the movies and original movies are better than the remakes.

My .02

MotoSook 12-22-2010 05:44 PM

Watching the original right now....

targa911S 12-22-2010 06:50 PM

bridges, coens? what needs to be said?

dennis in se pa 12-22-2010 07:07 PM

"What was so wrong with the original True Grit that it needs to be remade?"
The answer is "Nothing". The reason is churn for money. There is nothing new anymore. Everything that ever was is now being recycled. I believe the best movies were in black and white. "Special Effects" were the beginning of the end of the story and the beginning of the "visual".

Joeaksa 12-22-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 5742561)
"What was so wrong with the original True Grit that it needs to be remade?"

Agree and thats why I will not be going to see this one.

John Wayne played in "True Grit" and unless he is in the movie its not for me.

Joe A

onlycafe 12-22-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5742516)
bridges, coens? what needs to be said?



to quote gary cooper; "yup."

i just got back from seeing it and was very well satisfied.

joe, i normally shy away from remakes, did it need redoing? no.
but it was great.

Racerbvd 12-22-2010 08:48 PM

I don't think anyone can top this...


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This is pretty cool..

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DanielDudley 12-23-2010 01:53 AM

I read the book, and saw the movie. I may check this out, but it would be hard to top the excitement of this movie when I was a Kid, and John Wayne was The Man.

The book was awesome. I could barely stand it when she was down with the snakes. The most exciting book I had ever read, up to that time.

DanielDudley 12-23-2010 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 5741782)
I'm a big Jeff Bridges fan, can't wait to see it:)

He was purty darn good in Wild Bill. I would recommend that movie if you haven't seen it.

DanielDudley 12-23-2010 02:03 AM

But here's the thing. John Wayne movies are from a different time, and to a lot of kids he is just some old dead guy that it is hard to believe in. I am from that time, but kids today need the immediacy of NOW. Something about the way it is filmed and the acting will read true to them, just as that movie reached right into my imagination back then.

People still eat souffles, same recipe as yesterday. They just don't want to eat yesterday's souffle.

notfarnow 12-23-2010 04:51 AM

There's also the fact that Jeff Bridges is a better actor than John Wayne.

*ducks, runs*

URY914 12-23-2010 05:52 AM

Any stupid over the top special effects in the movie? Like an empty wagon turning over and exploding in a ball of flames?

daepp 12-23-2010 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 5742958)
There's also the fact that Jeff Bridges is a better actor than John Wayne.

*ducks, runs*

Too funny Jake. I won't take the bait, but Bridges has truly grown into a great actor. His portrayal of a washed up country singer in Crazy Heart was over the top good!

I will definitely see the remake.

Wilywilly 12-23-2010 06:48 AM

Well I saw both movies back to back. The orginal one was pretty damn good as is the Coen Brothers version. The new one falls short of the Coen's best though. The computer graphics of a train arriving in Ft Smith with the town in the background was pretty lame as were the pauses in the story when Jeff and Matt got into a shooting match. I think the orginal is the better. John Wayne and Glen Cambell were superb. Dennis Hopper and Robert Duvall were in the old one too. I was amazed at the similarities in the movies. Costumes, dialouges, plot - I guess right from the book. The beginning and endings were different. I sort of liked the Coen versions but overall have to go with the orginal. Going to read the book next

audiman08 12-23-2010 07:26 AM

Remakes are okay, IF they are done by the right people. The Coen brothers have a great reputation. Also, remakes spark interest in (younger) people in the originals, which is great for everybody.

audiman08 12-23-2010 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilywilly (Post 5743118)
Well I saw both movies back to back. The orginal one was pretty damn good as is the Coen Brothers version. The new one falls short of the Coen's best though. The computer graphics of a train arriving in Ft Smith with the town in the background was pretty lame as were the pauses in the story when Jeff and Matt got into a shooting match. I think the orginal is the better. John Wayne and Glen Cambell were superb. Dennis Hopper and Robert Duvall were in the old one too. I was amazed at the similarities in the movies. Costumes, dialouges, plot - I guess right from the book. The beginning and endings were different. I sort of liked the Coen versions but overall have to go with the orginal. Going to read the book next

Sorry to hear about the computer graphics though, CGI ruins a lot of things...

sammyg2 12-23-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 5742162)
huh? How can anyone hate on The Dude? It was hysterical!!

Never said the movie wasn't humorous. When they tried to throw the ashes into the ocean and they blew back in his face, that was funny.

But let's break the dude down and analyze:

he was a drug addict and drunk who's highlight was hanging out at a bowling alley with other losers. He had no job and didn't want one, so logically we can assume he was in section 8 housing receiving food stamps and welfare.
All he wanted to do was smoke dope, drink beer, hang out at a bowling alley, and spend other people's money.

The character made absolutely no contribution to society but took and took and took, and has no problem with that. He didn't care and he did not try and had no conscience.

But what really fries me is this: there people people in this country who actually think being a total bum, a total loser, a complete worthless parasite, is actually cool. You figure that one out.

azasadny 12-23-2010 12:31 PM

The dude is now the duke!

pavulon 12-23-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 5743741)
Never said the movie wasn't humorous. When they tried to throw the ashes into the ocean and they blew back in his face, that was funny.

But let's break the dude down and analyze:

<snip>

But what really fries me is this: there people people in this country who actually think being a total bum, a total loser, a complete worthless parasite, is actually cool. You figure that one out.

oh...ok. I guess I never saw the flick was an endorsement of The Dude's lifestyle. I thought it was stricktly entertainment (plus the Gypsy Kings rocked Hotel California)....well, that and a warning to never fork with anyone who tongues their bowling ball...ever.SmileWavy

I agree with you on the ashes scene...Jeebus that was funny.

vash 12-23-2010 04:31 PM

true grit, the new version was a tad on the slow side. the girl was awesome playing the part. but the movie had about 10 minutes of excitement.

i will rent the original version later.

daepp 12-24-2010 05:29 AM

Saw the new one last night; haven't seen the original in decades. I would recommend this new version: great acting and shot beautifully up around Bishop, CA.

It does not compare to other Coen films such as No Country for Old Men etc. IMHO of course.

enzo1 12-24-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 5744168)
true grit, the new version was a tad on the slow side. the girl was awesome playing the part. but the movie had about 10 minutes of excitement.

i will rent the original version later.

of the 175 movies JW did, True Grit was not my favorite, Hellfighters & McKlintock were better.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7T1jYymCI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifRKu1W1fXQ&feature=related

BeyGon 12-26-2010 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 5744168)
true grit, the new version was a tad on the slow side. the girl was awesome playing the part. but the movie had about 10 minutes of excitement.

i will rent the original version later.

We saw it Christmas Eve and I agree with the comment on the girl, she was good, other than that I thought it was OK. Dudley Dooright as the Texas Ranger played his part good, but I kept thinking he should have a red Mountie suit on.


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