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DARISC 12-22-2010 07:27 PM

I had a girlfriend once that had it so bad that three or four nights a week her ears would ring so loudly that sleep was impossible.

I really needed my sleep, so I dumped her.

Jared at Pelican Parts 12-22-2010 07:30 PM

I used to play in a metal band with a 100W full stack Marshall. You get used to it. I have to have a fan or some sort of ambient noise going at night, otherwise I can't sleep. I get the heartbeat noises sometimes.

Racerbvd 12-22-2010 07:55 PM

Yes, I need something to drown it out to sleep, thought it was just me...

Drdogface 12-22-2010 08:20 PM

I can't go to sleep at night w/o a radio playing to cover it up. Mine is a legacy from Nam..

sc_rufctr 12-22-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jared at Pelican Parts (Post 5742600)
... I get the heartbeat noises sometimes.

That's the worst part for me... I would be happy just to have the ringing only :(

vash 12-22-2010 09:07 PM

i have it.

i dont notice anymore unless i am somewhere very quiet. i seem to hear it the worst if i am in a tree stand trying to enjoy the silence. mine isnt very loud.

too late, but i take care of my ears now. ear protection for sure.

rcecale 12-22-2010 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 5742524)
I know its late for most of you, but ear plugs were your friend. If you're young, protect your hearing at work and play. It will catch up with you. BTW, I do workplace safety for a living.

Twenty years in the USMC, working around jet engines. Double hearing protection was the trick! I would venture to say that my hearing is the second thing that "hasn't lost a stroke!" :D

Randy

Crowbob 12-23-2010 04:18 AM

Tinnitus is a precursor to hearing loss, usually. Caffeine exacerbates it for most people, as does alcohol for some, acetylcylic acid (aspirin) also. Endolymphatic hydrops (excess fluid-endolymph-of the inner ear) causes the cilia in the cochlea to be crushed and break off eliminating neural pulses to the brain. Acoustic insult (such as a Jethro Tull concert) also breaks the cilia resulting in hearing loss. It is cumulative. The actual causes of tinnitus are unknown. My theory is that it is the same or similar mechanism behind phantom pain. Tinnitus seems to replace the lost neural impulses and gives the brain something to do. Acoustic neuroma (a growth of nerve cells on the acoustic nerve) can also produce tinnitus, similar to the interference effect of flourescent lighting on radio signals. Acoustic neuroma may also result in diminshed language recognition because it scrambles the signal before it gets to the parietal lobes of the brain. One can hear the speech but cannot understand it, similar to the inability to understand a foreign language. Hearing amplification (conventional hearing aids) do(es) not improve speech and language processing as it is analogous to cranking up a blown speaker. It just gets louder with no improvement in sound quality. All of the foregoing is dependent on the type and degree of sensori-neural hearing loss. In some people, certain frequencies of sound cannot be detected no matter how loud. Also, some people have tinnitus that is a reflection of their unique loss of perception of sound. That is, the tinnitus replaces and is a substitute for the individual frequencies lost. Destructive interference, such as is produced by electronic ear muffs, helps many. One of the most effective ways of dealing with tinnitus is plain and simple acceptance. Do not focus or concentrate on it. That is why sleep (or near sleep) and quiet environments increase the symptoms. The brain needs to be distracted else it begins to make stuff up. Of all the senses, hearing is the most mechanical. As we learn more about microelectronic signal processing and improve our abilities in microminiaturation, such as cochlear implantation, reliefs from tinnitus and hearing loss will become more available. There is an endemic explosion of hearing loss, an epidemic if you will, beginning to emerge in the 'boomer' population, ironically. Sorry for the length of this post but there you have it.

billybek 12-23-2010 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona 911 (Post 5742551)
I still don't. I am paying for my stupidity now.

There were no concerns for hearing protection when I first started in the trade. I know I lost a lot of what hearing I had due to the various jobs I performed.
I wear plugs all the time when exposed to loud noises in the shop or at home. I don't have much left to protect, but I want to preserve what I have.
I have had nerve damage in the inner ear since I was very young. I can't remember a time when I have not had the ringing. Sometimes it doesn't bother me too much and other times it drives me crazy.... Mind you it is a pretty short drive in a fast car!

Crowbob 12-23-2010 04:38 AM

Hearing protections are the new seatbelts. ALWAYS use them.

billybek 12-23-2010 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rcecale (Post 5742782)
Double hearing protection was the trick!
Randy

It is interesting how wearing plugs and a headset over them doesn't seem to change how loud the machine room noise is, but changes the frequency levels of what your ear hears.
I have considered in the past using double protection in other situations too!!!

azasadny 12-23-2010 05:21 AM

My wife has chronic tinnitus and is deaf in one ear. She wears a high-tech hearing aid and she says that helps, but the tinnitus is always there, to some degree...

flatbutt 12-23-2010 07:05 AM

I spent alot of time in factories starting at age 16. No hearing protection at all. In fact I worked in manufacturing through all of my college years and most of my early career until I got into management. OSHA was not a focus until the damage was done. Rock and roll sure didn't help though. I wonder how much the nagging wife hurt?

sc_rufctr 12-23-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by azasadny (Post 5742988)
My wife has chronic tinnitus and is deaf in one ear. She wears a high-tech hearing aid and she says that helps, but the tinnitus is always there, to some degree...

Would noise cancellation head phones help?

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I've got a letter from my doctor to see another specialist.
Any suggestions on what I should ask him? :)

1980SC 12-23-2010 07:15 AM

I've got it too. Started last New Years when I was taking Sudafed for a cold. We went to a restaurant which was a bit loud, but not that bad. Next morning the ringing began...

wdfifteen 12-23-2010 08:52 AM

Next question - how do you pronounce the word? Until I went to a doc about it I thought it was pronounced "tin-eye-tus." The doc pronounced it "tin-it-is."

1990C4S 12-23-2010 09:06 AM

I am surprised that no one has posted about the psychological issues related to tinnitus. It does not appear to be solely caused by exposure to load noise, or any physical stimulus per se.

azasadny 12-23-2010 10:00 AM

Peter,
Thanks for the suggestion. We asked the ear specialist that and she said it might help, but we tried it and it didn't really help at all.

Crowbob 12-23-2010 11:17 AM

The psychological effects of tinitus are more a consequence rather than a cause of the malady. However, it is quite well known that certain psychological profiles lend themselves to exacerbations of anxiety, depression and obsessive mental disorders because of it. The first line of defense is a strong offense. Though easy to say, constructing a personal commitment against allowing it to control your life is essential. Compared to actual hearing loss, tinnitus is a minor inconvenience. Hearing loss and tinitis acquired simultaneously late in life can be devastating.

jcommin 12-23-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 5742928)
Tinnitus is a precursor to hearing loss, usually. Caffeine exacerbates it for most people, as does alcohol for some, acetylcylic acid (aspirin) also. Endolymphatic hydrops (excess fluid-endolymph-of the inner ear) causes the cilia in the cochlea to be crushed and break off eliminating neural pulses to the brain. Acoustic insult (such as a Jethro Tull concert) also breaks the cilia resulting in hearing loss. It is cumulative. The actual causes of tinnitus are unknown. My theory is that it is the same or similar mechanism behind phantom pain. Tinnitus seems to replace the lost neural impulses and gives the brain something to do. Acoustic neuroma (a growth of nerve cells on the acoustic nerve) can also produce tinnitus, similar to the interference effect of flourescent lighting on radio signals. Acoustic neuroma may also result in diminshed language recognition because it scrambles the signal before it gets to the parietal lobes of the brain. One can hear the speech but cannot understand it, similar to the inability to understand a foreign language. Hearing amplification (conventional hearing aids) do(es) not improve speech and language processing as it is analogous to cranking up a blown speaker. It just gets louder with no improvement in sound quality. All of the foregoing is dependent on the type and degree of sensori-neural hearing loss. In some people, certain frequencies of sound cannot be detected no matter how loud. Also, some people have tinnitus that is a reflection of their unique loss of perception of sound. That is, the tinnitus replaces and is a substitute for the individual frequencies lost. Destructive interference, such as is produced by electronic ear muffs, helps many. One of the most effective ways of dealing with tinnitus is plain and simple acceptance. Do not focus or concentrate on it. That is why sleep (or near sleep) and quiet environments increase the symptoms. The brain needs to be distracted else it begins to make stuff up. Of all the senses, hearing is the most mechanical. As we learn more about microelectronic signal processing and improve our abilities in microminiaturation, such as cochlear implantation, reliefs from tinnitus and hearing loss will become more available. There is an endemic explosion of hearing loss, an epidemic if you will, beginning to emerge in the 'boomer' population, ironically. Sorry for the length of this post but there you have it.

I have had mine for a very long time. I can't remeber when I didn't have it. Quiet is very noisey to me. I also have some hearing loss. However, my dad and his mom had hearing loss. I also have chronic ear infections; a simple cold goes right to my ears.

About 15 years ago, I started to get bi annual hearing tests. The first time I did the test,to establish a benchmark, the doctor explained the results. He indicated I had some hearing loss, nothing critical. He also said to me, you probably have ringing in your ears. I responded by saying: "doesn't everybody?". He calmly said "no". I remember getting teary eyed.

I am very aware of noisey situations and am very proactive when I get colds. I have had sinus surgery and experienced 2 bouts of vertigo. I know these parts of my body are my weakest links.


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