Portland and the beautiful NW. Even with a rare snow storm it's beautiful. Welcome to Oregon.

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I wouldn't consider Portland cold. We do get some colder snaps, but nothing that lasts too long. Our winter averages are usually in the mid 40's. Of course everything is relative and coming from the NE, that's a warm winter. Coming from Cali or AZ, that's cold.

I have no idea where Byron got that snow pic from, but snow is a pretty rare sight here, especially in that quantity. As a result, the city doesn't have the equipment to deal with it when we do get it. So much so, that as little as a 1/2" of snow can shut down the city.

However, we tend to get more ice storms than snow storms (had one last night) and there seems to be plenty of de-icers in the city's arsenal. Also, if you plan to head down the gorge during the winter months, you are required to have snow tires.

That isn't cold. My second winter here in the Sierras. Zero and below is not uncommon.

I need to work if not just to stifle the boredom.

BTW, how are the gun laws? Is WA reciprocal with OR on CCWs?

Bzzzzt...answered my own question....no recip with anyone. That sucks.

Which is the less hassle County in OR to get one?

Probably Union, Baker or Grant. They are less 'up tight' about guns on this side of the state!

Yes it does!

Salem is a pit. As a life long resident of the Portland area, I have perspective. Salem has a bunch of prisons and other institutional facilities. The families of the residents move to Salem. Most folks I know in Salem are druggies or at least poor folk. If I worked in Salem, there are nice locations near by but I don't think I would live there.
Good luck,
Larry

washington county +1
realy close to downtown without the taxes

Old Girlfriend took it last winter, her back yard & deck..
For close to a week, she couldn't leave the house since it is on a hill.. She is the only person who could get me to leave my native FL:cool:..
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that was rare.....
I am 41 and have only that one winter has been like that.
ARCTIC BLAST 2009

I have lived in Portland since 1990 and for 7 years commuted to and worked in Salem. The idea of moving there never entered my mind even during the 45 minute commute each way.

The Portland area has much more to offer than Salem.

PDX gets more exciting weather than the cities down the valley - the storms come across the Pacific Ocean and have a nice shot right down the gorge

you need to describe what you like to really decide

BUT, be SURE you can handle the winters before you accept any job here - the suicide rate is high for a reason

Horse country....is there an area that has BLM land or public riding trails without having to trailer the horses?

I believe the BLM owns a staggering percentage of the state. A wild azz guess would be 30 - 50%. That would be on the East side of the Cascades. Riding horses is not a problem.

BTW, I amend my dis of Salem. I hear South Salem is nice. Never been there however. I knew some cute girls in HS from there. Thats about it.

Larry

Joe were you asking about ccw licenses? I got one in multnomah county (Portland) with no fuss at all.

no way in PDX & probably Salem - can be done in Eugene

If Portland, I have a 2 House with 1 bed room Apt. attached with very large garage 3-4 cars in, 4-5 out, plus shop and storage space. NW 95 & Cornell. @ 10 minuets from down town.
Rent until sold. Big yards front and back plus empty sub-dividable lot attached.

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OKEDOKEY....living in Salem is out.....even if I have to work there....:eek:

If you do get stuck in Salem, move out to Dallas or another outlying area. The commute is only a few minutes and you get away from "Salem".

Undersand that those of us who live in Oregon consider Salem a place where you get stuck rather than a place you choose, but even Salem beats the heck out of alot of other places I've been (e.g. Newark - blech).

angela