anyone ever see a spoon defaced like this before?

[tabs]

If U Cold Blue you add to the problem...

[azasadny]

I guess I should let David (targa911s) see it first. He's working on another spoon for me right now, the Remington Model 51.

[RPKESQ]

I have "repaired " such cases before.

Machine up a steel plate to have an interferrence fit to the slot, but slightly thicker. Clean up the slot on a mill if required to have a very clean edge. Heat the slide to 200 degrees and cool the plate in the freezer. Press together with a machinest vise. Allow to cool and dress the plate down to the slide level.

Final polish and re-blue the slide. Done.

This is a fairly easy repair and is worth the time.

It will look nearly perfect with just a hairline showing the join. It will not make the piece a pristine collectable, but will make it somewhat more valuable and easier to sell.

[azasadny]

RPKESQ,
Thank you for explaining the repair process. I'll see if I can find someone to do it and I'll try to get the gun looking better than it does now. Thanks again!

[Tim Hancock]

Art, if it has no collector value, might as well just blue it if it bothers you and shoot the hell out of it. It would make a nice "car" gun in that it would not bother "too" much if your car ever got broken in to.

That said, if the slot is not very deep, I might consider just machining that whole area and just end up with two vertical or slanted edges instead of the more obvious looking round ended "slot" prior to blueing.

You could also just carefully cut a piece of grip tape and stick it on there.... it would just look like what most of us IDPA guys do with grip tape in strategic places on our competition guns.

[targa911S]

It's a French gun. That mark is from when it was dropped.

A little cold blue and go shoot it. (sorry Tabby)

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by azasadny

RPKESQ,
Thank you for explaining the repair process. I'll see if I can find someone to do it and I'll try to get the gun looking better than it does now. Thanks again!

Doug Turnbull

[ODDJOB UNO]

you have (2) choices to gets this RIGHT the first time if ya want it to look perfect.


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those ARE the FREEKING GURUS and SPIRITUAL ADVISORS OF ALL THANGS WALTHER!



why make a hack job into an abortion.............DO IT RIGHT!



i love my walther ppk/s despite it being a smith und wesson recall. i stole the damn thing for $329 up in prescott valley. jammed like hell (FTF) and the following day i saw that smith had recalled umpteen million of them, so i sent mine(free of charge) in, with a letter of what i wanted(ramped/polish/headers/sidepipes) and POOF ! smith and wesson delivered(free) one hell of a nice reliable eats anything now(hollowpoints/FMJ's) walther PPK/S stainless.



DO NOT BUY A SMITH WALTHER PPK/S without it being RECALLED! the decockers when activated would make pistol GO BANG! very very VERY BAD JU JU!


look on the hammer for a PIN PUNCH MARK that was made at factory to denote that it had been thru smith and wessons RECALL PROGRAM!



i would buy a walther P5Compact(9mm) in a heartbeat if i could find one reasonable. and a walther .22 match in a heartbeat after shooting them. fit my hands like a glove. and of course typical germanic/teutonic precision.

[azasadny]

Thanks for all of the good advice, guys! I'll find out what my friend wants to do with the PP. I'm hoping he gives it to me for storing his guns, cleaning and getting them all back to where they should be. He and his father NEVER clean their guns and I've cleaned all of them and got them to operate reliably. I'll be working on a Makarov in a few weeks...

[oldE]

If this was a car, we'd call it a "Rat Rod" and say, "Well, it's not what I'd do, but there's a history there." Then we'd just drive the heck out of it.

You are talking restoration without being sure of the significance of the modification. I think the story is kind of interesting too. If it ain't really broke and all you are talking about is cosmetic, is it really worth the aggravation?

I guess I can appreciate it either way.
Les

[azasadny]

Here's some additional info from a guy on the Walther forums, this makes more sense to me...

"The defacement was not done by Manurhin. It was done by various importers who attempted to bring the guns into the USA after purchasing them surplus from parties overseas who had acquired them in scattered lots from different German police departments. That's why quite a few variations of defacement are seen; this example is one of the neater ones.

The reason for the defacement was that the "WALTHER" trademark in the USA was owned by Interarms, the exclusive U.S. importer, which had registered that trademark with U.S. Customs. The Customs Service was thereby required to intercept any "gray market" importation of trademarked goods --even those with genuine (not faked) trademarks-- and seize the offending goods. Unless permission could be obtained from Interarms (not likely; it's a cut-throat business), the importers were given only three choices: surrender the guns for destruction, re-export them, or remove the trademarks. The European sellers had already been paid and were not going to take the guns back, so..."

[azasadny]

My father's Sig P230 (I cleaned it today) and the Walther PP... German cousins...




This is my father's favorite and was his duty gun when he was a LEO. I cleaned it today for him as he's out of town on a cruise...




When I get "cabin fever" in the winter, I clean guns...

[targa911S]

the czech version....

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by azasadny

My $160 Hungarian PA-63 9x18 Mak clone is what I presently carry as I do not care if it gets scuffed up and it would not be the end of the world if it got stolen from my car. These PA-63 were all over at gun shows a couple years ago for cheap..... Supposedly they were standard issue in the 80's for Hungarian police/military. Pretty d@mn reliable, but with the aluminum frame, they kick a tad more than a steel frame Walther or Makorov would. Not a big deal, but the next day after firing a couple hundred rounds my hand was just a touch sore.

[azasadny]

I think that's a great gun design. I like the Sig P230/232, but the plastic grips don't cut it for me and I would replace them with better grips.

[azasadny]

I'm fighting with a FEG PA63 right now. It FTE's after a few rounds. I believe it's due to the steel-cased ammo being too hard for the extractor to properly eject. I'm trying to find brass-cased ammo to test my theory, but I haven't found any locally yet...