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HardDrive 02-18-2011 11:43 AM

Mac question....grrrrr....
 
So there is no way to simply right click, and create a new document in a folder? Are you f*ing kidding me?

BTW, the way macs handle photos is ASS. Horrible. Iphoto is simply horrible. IE level horrible. Could someone explain why you have to import a photo before you can preview it? If I have 15 similar photos on my iphone, I don't want to import 15 photos, have iphoto create yet another new 'event', then look through them and delete the others. I just want to preview them, and import the %^&^@#$%@# one I want! Image Capture and Preview will not allow this either. A preview application that.....doesn't let you preview? WTF?

The mac OS is great at something things, but it is really clunky compared to windows.

Seriously. Right click, create doc. Does Apple have some bizarre reason for not including context menus?

jeffgrant 02-18-2011 11:50 AM

Seriously. Whiny PC users are annoying as hell.

Of course there's a way to do it.... go figure it out.

If you spent half the time doing a Google search as you did *****ing about it, you'd have it figured out by now.

island911 02-18-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffgrant (Post 5854695)
Seriously. Whiny PC users are annoying as hell....

if they are anywhere near as annoying as Apple fanboys, I know just what you mean.

wdfifteen 02-18-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5854679)
BTW, the way macs handle photos is ASS. Horrible. Iphoto is simply horrible.

It's not the computer, it's the software. I process hundreds of photos a week on Macs and I don't use any Apple software for it. iphoto IS horrible. Mac computers are great, but Apple software ... not so much.

island911 02-18-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5854679)
...
The mac OS is great at something things, but it is really clunky compared to windows.

Seriously. Right click, create doc. Does Apple have some bizarre reason for not including context menus?

Well, for quite some time, Apple gave users only a One-Button mouse. (under 5 fingers, each with independent, and multiple degrees of freedom)

The whole 'User experience" vs 'input efficiency" is interesting to me.

In short, 'User experience" draws in new users, whereas 'input efficiency" makes for faster i/o.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5854679)
So there is no way to simply right click, and create a new document in a folder? Are you f*ing kidding me?

BTW, the way macs handle photos is ASS. Horrible. Iphoto is simply horrible. IE level horrible. Could someone explain why you have to import a photo before you can preview it? If I have 15 similar photos on my iphone, I don't want to import 15 photos, have iphoto create yet another new 'event', then look through them and delete the others. I just want to preview them, and import the %^&^@#$%@# one I want! Image Capture and Preview will not allow this either. A preview application that.....doesn't let you preview? WTF?

The mac OS is great at something things, but it is really clunky compared to windows.

Seriously. Right click, create doc. Does Apple have some bizarre reason for not including context menus?

Totally confused.

Boh Image capture and Preview will allow you to preview pictures at a reasonable size then select the ones you want to import.

Granted they are showing you the thumbnails but even those are plenty big to figure to see even small difference in images. It's actually a smart way to do it and the entire purpose of thumbnails.

Regardless, even if it showed you the full res file you'd still be "importing" them, you need to pull the data across the wire for it to be displayed. A 20 mb image is going to take the same time to show up on screen whether you are importing or previewing it. You can't get away from having to pull the data from the device. Again, it's the purpose of thumbnails, to get you to see the item as quickly as possible.

As for contextual menus there are plenty. You want to right click and create a new file, a file of what? The new file would be a blank document that you then need to open in the appropriate app to add content to then save it

Simply launching the app and creating a new file is the same number of steps, the only difference is steps 1 and 2 are reversed.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-18-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 5854711)
It's not the computer, it's the software. I process hundreds of photos a week on Macs and I don't use any Apple software for it. iphoto IS horrible. Mac computers are great, but Apple software ... not so much.

what software do you use?

HardDrive 02-18-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5854757)
Totally confused.

Boh Image capture and Preview will allow you to preview pictures at a reasonable size then select the ones you want to import.

Granted they are showing you the thumbnails but even those are plenty big to figure to see even small difference in images. It's actually a smart way to do it and the entire purpose of thumbnails.
.

????

Thats simply not true. Are you telling me you can tell which photos are the sharpest by looking at a thumbnail? Was your dad an eagle? :)

foxpaws 02-18-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5854776)
????

Thats simply not true. Are you telling me you can tell which photos are the sharpest by looking at a thumbnail? Was your dad an eagle? :)

Are you looking at them from a camera that is plugged into the mac or another drive - like a thumb drive?

HardDrive 02-18-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5854757)

As for contextual menus there are plenty. You want to right click and create a new file, a file of what? The new file would be a blank document that you then need to open in the appropriate app to add content to then save it

Simply launching the app and creating a new file is the same number of steps, the only difference is steps 1 and 2 are reversed.

Thats not true, because Windows opens the appropriate app for you when you double click on the file. Right click, create new doc, double click, doc, app opens and ready to go. 3 seconds.

I know everyone has their ingrained habits....but I'm right dammit! :D

jyl 02-18-2011 12:32 PM

Plug in the camera. iPhoto shows the images. Either select the thumbnails you want and "import selected", or click "import all". And you can turn on or off the "event" organization. iPhoto may not be all things to all people, but it is not as inflexible as you may think.

island911 02-18-2011 12:40 PM

Plug in the camera? ...who does that?

I mean, that seems to be the slow boat, always. Do people have cameras w/o removable storage? ...oh, right; the iPhone

foxpaws 02-18-2011 12:48 PM

Whether you plug in your camera, use a dock for a flash card, plug in your phone - whatever method you use to attach your photo acquiring device to the mac - don't let iPhoto be your default - and if it pops up - just turn it off - and change your preferences.

Go to the desktop - find the drive/camera/phone icon and then view the photos directly from the device, just click on the files and they will open in preview - actual size - and they won't download onto the Mac, they will remain on the device until you decide which ones to download.

jyl 02-18-2011 12:49 PM

My cameras have removable storage, but easier to simply plug them in than deal with removing the media. If I had many hundreds of RAW images on a DSLR, that might be different.

Soon it won't matter, USB 3.0 is very fast.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5854787)
Thats not true, because Windows opens the appropriate app for you when you double click on the file. Right click, create new doc, double click, doc, app opens and ready to go. 3 seconds.

I know everyone has their ingrained habits....but I'm right dammit! :D

OS X does the same thing, double click a file and the app opens. If it's a blank file then you still need to put content into it. Hows that different from launching the app and hitting Command N?

stomachmonkey 02-18-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 5854776)
????

Thats simply not true. Are you telling me you can tell which photos are the sharpest by looking at a thumbnail? Was your dad an eagle? :)

Well see now you are being a little clearer in what you were looking for out of the preview.

Like I said in the other thread you started go download MacFuse and iPhone Disc.

It'll take all of 5-10minutes to d/l, install, reboot.

Now every time you plug in your iPhone the entire thing shows up just like any other disc.

So you can browse to your photo folder, hit the Spacebar and get full screen previews of your stuff.

Would have taken far less time than starting another thread to complain about advice you chose to ignore.SmileWavy

sm70911 02-18-2011 01:13 PM

Left click on your mouse. In the dropdown menu you will see Quick look. Wheel down and there you are looking at pics in preview.
Hold down shift to select more than one image

stomachmonkey 02-18-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sm70911 (Post 5854868)
....you will see Quick look. Wheel down and there you are looking at pics in preview.......

You can get into Quick look by simply selecting a file and hitting Spacebar.

That's my iPhone mounted as a disc over there using FUSE.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1298067312.jpg

JavaBrewer 02-18-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 5854858)
OS X does the same thing, double click a file and the app opens. If it's a blank file then you still need to put content into it. Hows that different from launching the app and hitting Command N?

The main advantage I see (unless there is a OSX tweak - which I'm sure there is) with the Win method is I right click in a folder, create a file (many file types supported), and it is in the location I want. Double click (just like OSX to open/edit). The savings comes in not having to negotiate the File/SaveAs/**Now locate your target folder** menu from the Application.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1298067981.jpg

foxpaws 02-18-2011 01:33 PM

So, when you right click to add a document to the folder - I see that it shows microsoft applications (such as the evil publisher) but does it show things that you would really use - like Adobe Creative Suite?


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